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Post by stevef45 on May 1, 2022 14:17:19 GMT -8
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Post by markfj on May 1, 2022 15:21:48 GMT -8
No modeling photos to share, but I did catch NS Reading heritage unit 1076 awaiting its next trip at Dyer Quarry in Birdsboro, PA this morning. The paints not looking too good on this one, but then it has been ten years since it and the others debuted at Spencer. Wonder how long these special paint units will stay on the roster. Behind it was NS 1130 with an interesting message inscribed in the grim. Guess the talks about one-man crews are getting serious. Thanks, Mark
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on May 1, 2022 16:05:56 GMT -8
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Post by cemr5396 on May 1, 2022 16:40:19 GMT -8
Finally got around to finishing this boxcar that has been sitting on my desk forever: Here's a pic of the real thing for reference: It's an Athearn RTR P-S 5344 boxcar, added the pulp/paper service vents with bits of styrene, redid the capacity data and added reflectors with Smokebox Grapics decals, and added Kadee #178 semi scale draft gear and Hi-Tech air hoses at each end. Finally, I hit it with some Tamiya flat clear to give it a nice finish. I still need to weather it a bit but now I can put it in service until I get around to doing that. For now I have some other projects still on the go, including the grain elevator in the background of the first picture. That one is for a scene we are working on at the club layout, I am kitbashing it with parts from a few different Walthers kits.
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 1, 2022 16:46:51 GMT -8
^ Very interesting as I am considering that project now as well. Painted/lettered Athearn #5815 kit is on the way for the reason that I couldn't find decals for that unique CP Rail font anywhere. Fox Valley also has their car in the similar paint scheme with unique font. You've inspired me to add the vents using styrene strip.
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Post by cemr5396 on May 1, 2022 17:15:07 GMT -8
^ Very interesting as I am considering that project now as well. Painted/lettered Athearn #5815 kit is on the way for the reason that I couldn't find decals for that unique CP Rail font anywhere. Fox Valley also has their car in the similar paint scheme with unique font. You've inspired me to add the vents using styrene strip. well if I have inspired you I'll take that as a compliment . The Athearn boxcars don't have the skinny CP RAIL lettering as on the real ones, but the rest of the decoration is spot on, and to be honest I never liked the skinny lettering anyway . Between this car and the Atlas ACF Precision Design CPAA car I have, they make for something different and interesting to mix in with the Action Green newsprint cars and the modern 60 foot Hi Cubes.
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Post by jbilbrey on May 1, 2022 17:20:26 GMT -8
With my birthday falling toward the end of the month, I decided to treat myself with a "little" purchase. AT&SF 4060 by James Bilbrey, on Flickr Starting with an unlettered locomotive, I had more freedom over choosing the road-number and the lettering scheme. I chose AT&SF 4060 to match a photograph in the book "Yonder Comes the Train" that I received as a Christmas gift as a young boy. The lettering came from MicroScale. So far, I have only lightly weathered it using Pan Pastels. And, for the other end of the train AT&SF 1301 by James Bilbrey, on Flickr With a little searching, I was able to find a Walthers "Gold Line" 1300-series waycar. All the grabs, truss-bars, and braces came from the box, but I did add uncoupler levers and air hoses to the ends. A few weeks ago, I was on the CNW Historical Society Website and noticed that they had some second-hand kits. With my wallet $45 lighter, I picked up two P2K tank car kits and one InterMountain tank car kit. MOCX 2503 by James Bilbrey, on Flickr Unfortunately, HobbyLobby has stopped carrying my "go-to" glue (Tamiya extra-thin cement). I found that the replacement (Mr. Cement Deluxe) to be frustrating to use. Solid bonds were next to impossible to obtain, and found myself having to glue the same part on over and over. I'll be stopping by a hobby shop this week while on a mini-vacation to pick up some better cement before building the two P2K tank cars.
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 1, 2022 17:39:36 GMT -8
May 1, 2022 20:15:07 GMT -5 cemr5396 said: >The Athearn boxcars don't have the skinny CP RAIL lettering as on the real ones, ...and to be honest I never liked the skinny lettering anyway... That skinny lettering is a key element that makes these (and the FDL cars) distinctive in the CP Rail fleet. I can see that even Athearn became confused by this over time. Most of their newer runs of this model feature the correct CP Rail font, but not the correct CP Rail font for *these* cars. >...but the rest of the decoration is spot on... Does the kit have the end lettering? There is one mistake I can see on the factory side lettering, that is the two rows of LD LMT stencils on the model interfere with placement of the lower left-most vent. So I'll have to scrounge for replacement stencil decals or else omit that vent. >Between this car and the Atlas ACF Precision Design CPAA car I have, they make for something different and interesting to mix in with the Action Green newsprint cars and the modern 60 foot Hi Cubes.
True but be careful, as the car and the distinctive skinny lettering font we're discussing here is a product of the mid-1990s and not before. Prior times on CP Rail tended to have much more solid blocks of green newsprint cars such as those CP used to run on the Winchester sub until QGRY took over that traffic and ran it over their Lachute sub in 1997. Lots of weird CP newsprint and other boxcars came along in the mid-1990s.
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Post by simulatortrain on May 1, 2022 18:15:41 GMT -8
Worked on a couple red team gons last night. The PRR one is a Funaro G28 kit built as a G28C with ends welded shut, and the PC is a Tangent modified with fixed ends as a G31D. There are a ton of patches over the original PRR lettering, which for some reason barely show in the photo even though they are a much more red color. With so many patches, you almost wonder why they didn't just paint the car! I also did a little decal work on this Atlas plug door car to match a 1974 repaint I found online. Wheel dot and 76 date didn't work for my era.
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Post by dti406 on May 1, 2022 18:26:15 GMT -8
Work I got done this this week! Well, I finished my Lot 794 Boxcar this week, with a surprise painting and decal job. The Youngstown and Southern was 100% owned by the Montour Railroad, which was 50% owned each by the PRR and P&LE. This car was painted in 1977 which is after Conrail and the P&LE was independent of Conrail, so they now owned both railroads and the P&LE leased 135 of the Lot 794 boxcars to the Y&S. As this was early in the IPD period I believe the Y&S was trying to get some revenue from the IPD movement. Car was kitbashed from Accurail, Branchline, and Moloco Parts and pieces, painted with Floquil Century (Jade) Green and lettered with Mark Vaughn's Decals. Walthers PS 2893 Covered Hopper kit, painted with Scalecoat II MOW Gray Paint and lettered with Prime Mover Decals. Car was built for the Erie to haul various products usually soda ash and many lasted into Conrail still in Erie paint and were never painted for the EL. Kato GP35 and 2 Atlas RS-32's hauling a general freight on the Strongsville Club layout. Thanks for looking! Rick Jesionowski
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Post by cemr5396 on May 1, 2022 19:03:25 GMT -8
Does the kit have the end lettering? There is one mistake I can see on the factory side lettering, that is the two rows of LD LMT stencils on the model interfere with placement of the lower left-most vent. So I'll have to scrounge for replacement stencil decals or else omit that vent. This car was an RTR car, I can't speak to the kits at all. It does have what appears to be all the appropriate lettering on the end of the car. For all I know factory placement of the weight data could be correct for the time period before the vents were added. I had to piece new data together from decals after doing the vents. not a problem for me, my modeling period is about 20 years after that.
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Post by csxt8400 on May 1, 2022 19:27:22 GMT -8
If I'm correct, those funky CP boxes were painted on the D&H right? A lot of weird stuff came out of that in terms of paint and lettering.
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 1, 2022 19:36:40 GMT -8
If I'm correct, those funky CP boxes were painted on the D&H right? A lot of weird stuff came out of that in terms of paint and lettering. "PAINTED BY CP RAIL SYSTEM, BRIDGELINE DIV., ONEONTA SHOPS"
"D&H-0-7-95"
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 1, 2022 19:41:12 GMT -8
Does the kit have the end lettering? There is one mistake I can see on the factory side lettering, that is the two rows of LD LMT stencils on the model interfere with placement of the lower left-most vent. So I'll have to scrounge for replacement stencil decals or else omit that vent. This car was an RTR car, I can't speak to the kits at all. It does have what appears to be all the appropriate lettering on the end of the car. For all I know factory placement of the weight data could be correct for the time period before the vents were added. I had to piece new data together from decals after doing the vents. Oh okay, I misunderstood that you had custom decals made to letter what looks like a repainted car. I too would have started with the RTR model, were it not for the incorrect font that Athearn used here. The kit was one of the very last blue box kits released around 2000 and has the correct lettering for these cars. I did not know the vents were added after these cars were repainted into this CP Rail scheme.
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Post by cemr5396 on May 1, 2022 19:52:13 GMT -8
This car was an RTR car, I can't speak to the kits at all. It does have what appears to be all the appropriate lettering on the end of the car. For all I know factory placement of the weight data could be correct for the time period before the vents were added. I had to piece new data together from decals after doing the vents. Oh okay, I misunderstood that you had custom decals made to letter what looks like a repainted car. I too would have started with the RTR model, were it not for the incorrect font that Athearn used here. The kit was one of the very last blue box kits released around 2000 and has the correct lettering for these cars. I did not know the vents were added after these cars were repainted into this CP Rail scheme. I made the statement about the vents on a hunch, but after searching around for photos, it appears I was actually right. Here a couple with no vents, courtesy of the Canadian Freight Car Gallery: EDIT: OK, so being the freight car nerd that I am, I dug around looking for even more photos, and from what I can find these cars appear to have gotten the vents in the mid 2000s. all the pics after 2004-05 seem to have them. So since you are a 1990s modeler, you could probably get away with doing nothing. If you want to do the vents anyways, I strongly suggest trying to find a pic of your specific car. The vents were not always in the same spot and neither was the weight data apparently.
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 2, 2022 2:58:01 GMT -8
^ Awesome information, thanks very much. Interesting how the adjacent car in the 2001 photo has the vents, which appear to be a retrofit on that one as well. That bottom car is almost a dead ringer for the Athearn model. Too bad Athearn used the wrong font on their RTR version as it would otherwise be highly accurate for this prototype as it appeared in the first ten years or so. Those who care will need to start with the kit or else make up some custom decals for the skinny lettering and replace it on the RTR. Great discussion, I appreciate you sharing your model and some prototype data!
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Post by cp6027 on May 2, 2022 9:36:14 GMT -8
...For now I have some other projects still on the go, including the grain elevator in the background of the first picture. That one is for a scene we are working on at the club layout, I am kitbashing it with parts from a few different Walthers kits. Pictures of the grain elevator project please!
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Post by cemr5396 on May 2, 2022 9:40:06 GMT -8
...For now I have some other projects still on the go, including the grain elevator in the background of the first picture. That one is for a scene we are working on at the club layout, I am kitbashing it with parts from a few different Walthers kits. Pictures of the grain elevator project please! I'll make sure to get some before next SFF for you
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Post by jako on May 2, 2022 11:03:01 GMT -8
Bowser RS-3 on the Webber Yard Layout from a Friend
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Post by unittrain on May 2, 2022 11:42:29 GMT -8
Wow that top photo looks so real great job. I'm working on wiring my layout as all the track laying is done except a small area also scratch building 2 truss bridges.
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 2, 2022 18:54:35 GMT -8
AT&SF 1301 by James Bilbrey, on Flickr With a little searching, I was able to find a Walthers "Gold Line" 1300-series waycar. All the grabs, truss-bars, and braces came from the box, but I did add uncoupler levers and air hoses to the ends.
That is a very nice-looking model -- more photos of it please, esp the underframe and end detailing. Walthers has produced some very acceptable cabooses through the years and this appears to be one of them.
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