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Post by stevef45 on May 23, 2022 5:35:28 GMT -8
Building another NJ Transit GP40PH-2B, 4112. Will be slightly different as 4112 in mid 2000's was running around with an all forward P5 on the hood. Sounded great too till the FRA said no no.  20220515_145327 by Tripps Pics79, on Flickr  20220515_165748 by Tripps Pics79, on Flickr Ordered more cannon doors as i ran out of some of the sizes I needed. Ended up splicing a 78" door to a 65" door and not really liking it. Might just build another door panel section again and fix the gaps on the radiator section. |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on May 23, 2022 8:06:51 GMT -8
Why did the FRA say no?
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on May 23, 2022 8:07:37 GMT -8
Building another NJ Transit GP40PH-2B, 4112. Will be slightly different as 4112 in mid 2000's was running around with an all forward P5 on the hood. Sounded great too till the FRA said no no. 20220515_145327 by Tripps Pics79, on Flickr 20220515_165748 by Tripps Pics79, on Flickr Ordered more cannon doors as i ran out of some of the sizes I needed. Ended up splicing a 78" door to a 65" door and not really liking it. Might just build another door panel section again and fix the gaps on the radiator section. Why did the FRA say No? |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on May 23, 2022 8:14:56 GMT -8
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Post by dti406 on May 23, 2022 12:04:37 GMT -8
Good afternoon from sunny and mild Northeast Ohio! I did manage to get something done what with all that is going on with me right now. Another Kadee PS 2003CF Covered Hopper painted with Scalecoat II MOW Gray Paint and lettered with Ann Arbor Historical Society Decals. Car were the first to come after the DT&I acquisition and reflected their lettering practices. They were initially used for hauling cement out of the giant Dundee MI plant then were placed in service when the Ann Arbor got a contract to supply sand out of Yuma, MI for use in the Ford Engine Casting plant in Brookpark, OH. _IMG_0080.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) Next an IMRC 57' PC&F Mechanical Reefer kit, painted with Scalecoat II White and Armout Yellow paints and lettered with Herald King Decals. This car was lettered showing the split up of the PFE Reefer Fleet between the SP and UP. I modeled this car with the Keystone Cushion Underframe as most of those cars went to the UP. Used for shipping California produce to the midwest and east coasts. _IMG_0081.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) Another shot of my Athearn N&W SD39's on the Strongsville Club layout. _IMG_0063.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) Thanks for looking! Rick Jesionowski |
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Post by fr8kar on May 23, 2022 12:07:06 GMT -8
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Post by fr8kar on May 23, 2022 12:08:16 GMT -8
I love that UP reefer, Rick!
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Post by nsc39d8 on May 23, 2022 14:22:37 GMT -8
Keep on printing those Ryan! Let me know when you get the Southern B30-7A done with a chassis for it.
Great work every one!
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Post by stevef45 on May 23, 2022 14:35:31 GMT -8
If I remember correctly, it was to loud. Which is funny cause njt used to choke off the horns with a restrictor and the k5's they have sounded awful to the point of how were they allowed to sound that bad but a p5 that you could distinctly hear was bad. made no sense. |
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Post by fr8kar on May 23, 2022 15:11:47 GMT -8
Keep on printing those Ryan! Let me know when you get the Southern B30-7A done with a chassis for it. Great work every one! The CAD is done on the shell, but I'm still working on the sill for it. It can be kitbashed from a couple Atlas sills, but a printed part would be much easier. |
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Post by nsc39d8 on May 23, 2022 15:51:37 GMT -8
[/quote]The CAD is done on the shell, but I'm still working on the sill for it. It can be kitbashed from a couple Atlas sills, but a printed part would be much easier. [/quote].
I agree not much to do to modify the Atlas sill but it is tedious work. I will take a late model sill for the Atlas B23-7 too, one that matches the Southern's 4000 series.
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Post by fr8kar on May 23, 2022 18:23:10 GMT -8
. I agree not much to do to modify the Atlas sill but it is tedious work. I will take a late model sill for the Atlas B23-7 too, one that matches the Southern's 4000 series. Also in the works. The B30-7A1 has that arrangement of the battery boxes so it will be done too. |
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Post by drolsen on May 24, 2022 7:16:46 GMT -8
Ryan, that's a really clean-looking print! Barely any lines visible. Did you do some cleanup on it, or did it come out that nicely? I know the tech is improving every day, but that one just looks really good. Can't wait to see the finished model.
Dave
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Post by Donnell Wells on May 24, 2022 8:56:57 GMT -8
Hi Ryan. How long does a print that size take to complete?
Thanks, Donnell
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Post by sp8192 on May 24, 2022 11:53:04 GMT -8
Ryan, that's a really clean-looking print! Barely any lines visible. Did you do some cleanup on it, or did it come out that nicely? I know the tech is improving every day, but that one just looks really good. Can't wait to see the finished model. Dave 2nd this! Super clean on that print! Excellent work! |
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Post by fr8kar on May 24, 2022 12:04:19 GMT -8
Ryan, that's a really clean-looking print! Barely any lines visible. Did you do some cleanup on it, or did it come out that nicely? I know the tech is improving every day, but that one just looks really good. Can't wait to see the finished model. Dave The only thing done to this is it has been trimmed from the supports. All those little nubs still have to be sanded off. They are along the bottom of the shell where it rests upon the sill. I believe the print took about 16 hours. MP Scale Models does the printing for me. I supply the CAD files and work with Marshall to tweak the designs when necessary. This came about from me saying, "too bad this can't be done in one piece" and Marshall saying "challenge accepted!" It's right at the limit of what he can print in terms of size. I'm hoping the ever-so-slightly longer B30-7A1 body will also fit in that envelope as a single part, but if not I think where the hood widens at the exhaust would be a good place to join two halves. The other good thing is I have some 53' trailers I've been working on that I now know will print cleanly on one piece, so that's exciting. |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on May 24, 2022 16:12:45 GMT -8
Excellent model, Ryan. Nice work everyone that posted this week.
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Post by loco8107 on May 26, 2022 5:49:25 GMT -8
If I remember correctly, it was to loud. Which is funny cause njt used to choke off the horns with a restrictor and the k5's they have sounded awful to the point of how were they allowed to sound that bad but a p5 that you could distinctly hear was bad. made no sense. And to think NS still uses P5’s most notably on the hi hood 38-2’s that run in NJ. Comical….and the loco is looking good! |
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Post by MP-20-b on May 26, 2022 18:58:01 GMT -8
It failed its FRA horn test.
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Post by rockisland652 on May 27, 2022 6:43:21 GMT -8
It failed its FRA horn test.
Insufficient decibels, probably in reverse. IAIS wanted to put a P5 on their heritage units and the FRA failed them due to exactly that. In a time when NIMBYs everywhere are demanding quiet zones, the idiot bureaucrats at the FRA decide to make horns more obnoxious. |
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Post by stevef45 on May 27, 2022 9:03:21 GMT -8
It failed its FRA horn test.
Insufficient decibels, probably in reverse. IAIS wanted to put a P5 on their heritage units and the FRA failed them due to exactly that. In a time when NIMBYs everywhere are demanding quiet zones, the idiot bureaucrats at the FRA decide to make horns more obnoxious. Makes sense as it was an all forward facing P5. Couldn't reverse any due to the roof a/c unit. |
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Post by 12bridge on May 27, 2022 10:28:39 GMT -8
Part of the horn test is not only too quiet, but too loud in either direction. I get the feeling a good chunk of horns out there are not tested though anyway. A lot of roads are getting away from 5 chimes for this reason.
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Post by loco8107 on May 28, 2022 5:08:04 GMT -8
It failed its FRA horn test.
Insufficient decibels, probably in reverse. IAIS wanted to put a P5 on their heritage units and the FRA failed them due to exactly that. In a time when NIMBYs everywhere are demanding quiet zones, the idiot bureaucrats at the FRA decide to make horns more obnoxious. I agree with the last sentence. The original K5LA’s are loud enough, the newer ones on the GEVO’s and new SD70 variants are way too loud. The odd part is NJT usually runs locos forward anyway with a cabin car for the other direction. I guess they do LHF for work trains thereby having the need for reverse horns? |
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Post by el3625 on May 28, 2022 5:37:22 GMT -8
I thought this thread was supposed to be on photo fun and members work to showcase, not a lengthy discussion on how loud a horn is.
Bruce
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Post by 12bridge on May 28, 2022 7:07:26 GMT -8
Does it really matter? Its a discussion with interesting info. The days of 10+ page Sunday Photo Funs are gone anyway.
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Post by surlyknuckle on May 28, 2022 10:44:14 GMT -8
And yet here you are, making it lengthier.
As a airhorn guy, I appreciate the discussion. It was already answered above, but yes...it failed the horn test. The horn rules that went into effect in the mid 2000s were the answer to a problem that didn't exist...or should I say, already had a solution. Ever wonder why you nonsensically see almost every Gevo with a backwards mounted horn? Thank the horn rules for that...
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Post by tom on Jun 2, 2022 4:25:17 GMT -8
Nice horns.  |
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