joppasub
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Post by joppasub on Aug 12, 2022 10:48:12 GMT -8
Class One is showing a GP40 announcement ( no model yet) at the NTS.
BN
Rock Island
UP
Rio Grande
Milwaukee
Bnsf
Conrail
All mid to late 70s; (UP and BNSF current) Road specific details;
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Post by packer on Aug 12, 2022 10:54:33 GMT -8
Yay GP40; but who?
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Post by riogrande on Aug 12, 2022 11:05:35 GMT -8
Class One GP40 mid-late 70's Rio Grande? That's gonna hurt!
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Post by ambluco on Aug 12, 2022 11:06:29 GMT -8
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Post by dstark on Aug 12, 2022 11:06:57 GMT -8
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Post by gevohogger on Aug 12, 2022 11:21:57 GMT -8
All those UP modellers who have been waiting their whole lives to finally get an ex-WP or ex-RI GP40 for their fleets are finally satisfied!
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Post by riogrande on Aug 12, 2022 12:17:33 GMT -8
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joppasub
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Post by joppasub on Aug 12, 2022 12:31:05 GMT -8
Multiple road numbers per road name.
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Aug 12, 2022 12:59:06 GMT -8
I look forward to seeing what “stunning detail never before seen in an HO scale locomotive” means. I am curious how other companies will react to it and if they’ll offer the same detail.
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Post by lvrr325 on Aug 12, 2022 13:20:14 GMT -8
Depending on your era, some Conrail GP40s migrated to both D&RGW and UP in the mid-80s.
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Post by Baikal on Aug 12, 2022 13:28:01 GMT -8
I hope Class One does well. If the GP40 is a hit, could GP38s be in the works?
A photo of the KR Models two truck shay is in there. If these run well, I'll buy. If they did HOn3 they'd probably sell quite a few, what with the prices of Blackstone locos.
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Post by gevohogger on Aug 12, 2022 13:36:39 GMT -8
Depending on your era, some Conrail GP40s migrated to both D&RGW and UP in the mid-80s. And MKT, and C&NW.... Maybe others I'm forgetting. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Aug 12, 2022 13:46:31 GMT -8
I look forward to seeing what “stunning detail never before seen in an HO scale locomotive” means. I am curious how other companies will react to it and if they’ll offer the same detail. Marketing speak. Simple as that. Short of putting individual traction motors on each truck I don't see what there is left to do that has not been done before on a model. Even then I'm not convinced that the tried and true 'motor in the body' approach would not be superior anyway, in terms of reliablity and pulling power. |
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Post by fr8kar on Aug 12, 2022 14:00:01 GMT -8
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Aug 12, 2022 15:44:11 GMT -8
I believe individual model motors per truck like the prototype was a Chris at Railflyer idea. It was demonstrated, but like most of his ideas/products didn’t reach the production phase. Hopefully the slogan isn’t a marketing gimmick. That will get torn apart on this forum pretty fast. I look forward to seeing what “stunning detail never before seen in an HO scale locomotive” means. I am curious how other companies will react to it and if they’ll offer the same detail. Marketing speak. Simple as that. Short of putting individual traction motors on each truck I don't see what there is left to do that has not been done before on a model. Even then I'm not convinced that the tried and true 'motor in the body' approach would not be superior anyway, in terms of reliablity and pulling power. |
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Post by markfj on Aug 12, 2022 15:45:14 GMT -8
I look forward to seeing what “stunning detail never before seen in an HO scale locomotive” means. I am curious how other companies will react to it and if they’ll offer the same detail. Marketing speak. Simple as that. Short of putting individual traction motors on each truck I don't see what there is left to do that has not been done before on a model. Even then I'm not convinced that the tried and true 'motor in the body' approach would not be superior anyway, in terms of reliablity and pulling power. I think individual traction motors was the approach the guy that ran Railflyer was working on before the excrement impinge on the rotary oscillator and the company went kaput.
Ah, ya beat me to it Somecallmetim! I don’t know, maybe they are thinking of adding working fans, but that has been done before by Bachmann in the UK market on one of their diesels (with a very toy-like appearance). We’ll see. I'm in for a Conrail unit if these turn out good. Mark J. Reading, PA |
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Post by grahamline on Aug 12, 2022 16:11:14 GMT -8
Be nice to see someone give some extra attention to motors, universals and gearing. Some improvements have been made lately but a lot of current production uses designs and materials from the '80s.
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Post by riogrande on Aug 12, 2022 16:49:09 GMT -8
Depending on your era, some Conrail GP40s migrated to both D&RGW and UP in the mid-80s. Atlas has offered the former Conrail GP40's quite a few years ago and again recently. Those are fine because from what I recall there were no nose signal lights so the generic GP40 body looks visually correct for the former Conrail GP40's Rio Grande bought second hand. I did buy a couple of the Atlas from the first run. Since 1984 is a bit past my sweet spot, I'm covered with those two I already have. But the GP40's with road specific details are really what I need the most. Both the small herald and the early large herald. And the late phase GP40's. Yeah, none of those have been covered for D&RGW in road specific details. But the small herald GP40's is a great place to start! |
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Post by cp9002 on Aug 12, 2022 17:59:15 GMT -8
I wonder what decoders they will use in the GP40s?
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Post by fcixdarrell on Aug 12, 2022 18:02:11 GMT -8
Hopefully the slogan isn’t a marketing gimmick. That will get torn apart on this forum pretty fast. Yep. .0001% of the model RR customer base here. They'll NEVER survive the wrath of the Rescue Forum! Poor bastards - never stood a chance... |
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Post by unittrain on Aug 12, 2022 18:06:23 GMT -8
I'll take a Conrail and a B&O will want a PC orange C unit too oh yeah and Chessie hell I could use atleast 5 or so 40s I have 2 Atlas NYC units and a B&O.
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Post by sgoti on Aug 12, 2022 18:55:16 GMT -8
But the GP40's with road specific details are really what I need the most. Both the small herald and the early large herald. Umm... What do you mean by "early large herald"? The Grande only had one large herald on their GP40s. Glenn |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 12, 2022 18:59:15 GMT -8
Um, GP40s #3081-85 and the later phase #3086-3093 from memory. Ya, same herald but the last two orders of Rio Grande GP40s.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 12, 2022 19:34:15 GMT -8
Yep. .0001% of the model RR customer base here. They'll NEVER survive the wrath of the Rescue Forum! Poor bastards - never stood a chance... It certainly can be hellish to produce products and have customers complain about them. Probably ought to be a felony. "Sir, we have a warrant for your arrest. It appears you have pointed out a mistake in a model railroad product, and the manufacturer is sad. Very very sad. Come with us, please." Ed |
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Aug 13, 2022 3:11:45 GMT -8
Not sure where you read in my comment that the forum makes up the majority of modelers as obviously it doesn’t. I was referring to the fact that we have “what about the box” beat-a-dead-horse comments and threads dedicated to similar comments, but whatever you think. Hopefully the slogan isn’t a marketing gimmick. That will get torn apart on this forum pretty fast. Yep. .0001% of the model RR customer base here. They'll NEVER survive the wrath of the Rescue Forum! Poor bastards - never stood a chance... |
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Post by bnsf971 on Aug 13, 2022 4:34:42 GMT -8
I look forward to seeing what “stunning detail never before seen in an HO scale locomotive” means. I am curious how other companies will react to it and if they’ll offer the same detail. …Functioning toilets?… |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Aug 13, 2022 4:54:24 GMT -8
I look forward to seeing what “stunning detail never before seen in an HO scale locomotive” means. I am curious how other companies will react to it and if they’ll offer the same detail. Marketing speak. Simple as that. |
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Post by tom on Aug 13, 2022 5:17:30 GMT -8
I like at how everyone is lining up for a bunch of these site unseen and price not provided. Ring that bell!
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Post by bnsftcdiv on Aug 13, 2022 5:23:38 GMT -8
I won't pass judgement until I see(and run) the loco, as it is one I can use. Based on the wellcar they are producing they have a pretty good chance on the details....they are quite nice from close inspection at the show. I'll likely pick up a couple of the GP40's. The BNSF and UP perhaps. The wellcar as well though they are not as prevalent in service today-so maybe just one. We'll see
Dave Burman
modeling the modern Twin Cities
Trempealeau, WI
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Post by peoriaman on Aug 13, 2022 5:46:28 GMT -8
I was referring to the fact that we have “what about the box” beat-a-dead-horse comments and threads dedicated to similar comments, but whatever you think. More often than not, it seems the "box" comments spring to life after someone mentions the "box" meme.... " Standing by for the inevitable comments about the box...". Stuff like that. Like your post, for example. You brought it up. I think the "box" thing would die if you guys would ever quit mentioning it. |
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