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Post by carrman on Jun 29, 2022 19:32:18 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jun 29, 2022 20:22:19 GMT -8
I am missing how they are a new player in the game.
I look forward to learning more.
Ed
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Post by carrman on Jun 29, 2022 20:35:56 GMT -8
I am missing how they are a new player in the game. I look forward to learning more. Ed "The company plans to introduce several HO scale locomotives and freight cars in the coming months." |
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Post by westerntrains on Jun 29, 2022 21:31:23 GMT -8
future vapor ware? They should wait until they have something to show.
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Post by Christian on Jun 30, 2022 2:26:53 GMT -8
future vapor ware? They should wait until they have something to show. Why? No one is asking for money for some unseen product. Priest is a known figure and has connections throughout the model industry. Brusky brings an established parts company using 3d printing. It seems to me that they have potential. Sure, there is always the promise of vaporware. Just like Atlas, Athearn, Rapido, ExactRail, ScaleTrains, Arrowhead, and many, many others who announce a project that then gets stuck in the process. |
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Post by peoriaman on Jun 30, 2022 3:55:55 GMT -8
Priest is a known figure and has connections throughout the model industry... And he played a mean bass guitar in "Sweet" too. |
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Post by el3625 on Jun 30, 2022 4:11:11 GMT -8
Christian, you left out Intermountain, the biggest company of having the most vapor ware! I too will be looking forward to what they bring to the table. I hope it will not be another F unit.
Bruce
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jun 30, 2022 4:29:52 GMT -8
... I too will be looking forward to what they bring to the table. ...  |
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Post by valenciajim on Jun 30, 2022 7:13:22 GMT -8
This is interesting news. The guys behind the new venture have serious credentials. I wish them well.
It seems like a tough time to get started, but who knows, for all we know, they could become the next Scale Trains.
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Post by riogrande on Jun 30, 2022 7:56:31 GMT -8
Mr. Preist and his wife Cindy have been Santa Fe fans so it will be interesting to see if there is any of that influence.
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Post by fr8kar on Jun 30, 2022 8:21:41 GMT -8
I may be guilty of mis-remembering here, so please correct me if I am, but didn't Mr. Priest work for ScaleTrains briefly? Or am I thinking of Railroad Model Craftsman? I truly mean no snark here I just don't remember for sure if he was involved with either one (I've been awake forever it feels like). In any event he's certainly well respected in the hobby. I'm curious what's to come from these guys.
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Post by hovehicle on Jun 30, 2022 9:06:11 GMT -8
It's very interesting that they plan to introduce and not announce new locomotives and freight cars in the coming months. Maybe it's another Tangent way of doing business, which I like.
Vito L.
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Post by Christian on Jun 30, 2022 10:24:00 GMT -8
I may be guilty of mis-remembering here, so please correct me if I am, but didn't Mr. Priest work for ScaleTrains briefly? Or am I thinking of Railroad Model Craftsman? I truly mean no snark here I just don't remember for sure if he was involved with either one (I've been awake forever it feels like). In any event he's certainly well respected in the hobby. I'm curious what's to come from these guys. Both! And others. |
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Post by NS4122 on Jun 30, 2022 11:27:59 GMT -8
It's always good to have a new player, but when I went to the website it was blocked by my anti-virus for being dangerous.
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Post by NS4122 on Jun 30, 2022 11:30:04 GMT -8
Typical ATSFAN.... future vapor ware? They should wait until they have something to show. |
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jun 30, 2022 13:25:47 GMT -8
I may be guilty of mis-remembering here, so please correct me if I am, but didn't Mr. Priest work for ScaleTrains briefly? Or am I thinking of Railroad Model Craftsman? I truly mean no snark here I just don't remember for sure if he was involved with either one (I've been awake forever it feels like). In any event he's certainly well respected in the hobby. I'm curious what's to come from these guys. Here is the old thread on the subject, from the "before times" in April of 2019: atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/thread/7448/stephen-priest-longer-employed-scaletrains |
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Jun 30, 2022 14:11:33 GMT -8
That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Thought he was gone or dead. Several old timers that seemed to fade away. Typical ATSFAN.... future vapor ware? They should wait until they have something to show. |
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Jun 30, 2022 14:13:21 GMT -8
I expect a name change soon as well. Having 'Dot Com' in the name of your company doesn't always work out. Imagine if Ford changed their name to Ford.com. Now you have to tell your friends that you bought the new Ford.com F-150. It just sounds weird.
Scaletrains discovered the same thing a few years ago. I don't think it's a very good look; it's basically the equivalent of making the name of your company your mailing address. It's not very catchy. Saying 'Class One Model Works Dot Com' is tedious. Compare that to 'Athearn' or 'Branchline.' Shortening the name down to one or two words allows you to convey meaning much more quickly, and it's a lot easier to advertise and market with better logos and branding.
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Post by marknycfan on Jun 30, 2022 14:38:54 GMT -8
I remember everyone falling over themselves and fawning after Shane at ScaleTrains giving them 5-star reviews before any product was ever released
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Post by sknorcal on Jun 30, 2022 15:05:38 GMT -8
Railroad Model Craftsman Magazine did a video interview with the Class One Model Works team during the SFRH&MS meet in Kansas City earlier this month. The Class One team announced that their first model is a HO-scale TTX TWF10 well car. The models are currently in production, as are two types of containers (sold separately I presume).
The interview is posted on the RMC Facebook page for those who Facebook and are interested.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jun 30, 2022 16:06:39 GMT -8
Interesting first model. A TWF10 is a stand-alone 48' well car built in 1991. TTX has them in the series DTTX 54000-54074 (don't know if there's another group). These 48' well cars are still running, which is pretty cool. They're kind of unusual looking:  And they sport very unusual trucks. Ed |
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Post by 690 on Jun 30, 2022 16:13:55 GMT -8
Another car that was clearly designed by someone who has never had to work a day in the field.
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Post by csxt8400 on Jun 30, 2022 17:07:23 GMT -8
That thing is hideous.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jun 30, 2022 17:10:58 GMT -8
Exactly why I've gotta get one. But if there were only 75, I doubt I'd get more. It's sort of like those 56' well cars that Athearn makes. There were only a hundred. But I've photographed a few in trains. Haven't seen one of THESE out loose, though. Ed |
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Post by fr8kar on Jun 30, 2022 17:23:07 GMT -8
So we're going to get a model of this incredibly rare thing while A-line/Intermountain continues to have a lock on the early Budd/Thrall Lo-pac and Gunderson bulkhead cars that span nearly the entirety of double stack container service. The HO scale models of those cars Intermountain continues to produce once in a blue moon are ancient model technology, cheap (quality, that is not price - see the coupler pockets, articulated joints and trucks) and sorely lacking in detail (no stirrups!). Got it.
If this is a 3D printed model then fine but if they spent money tooling it.... why?
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Jun 30, 2022 18:39:48 GMT -8
So we're going to get a model of this incredibly rare thing while A-line/Intermountain continues to have a lock on the early Budd/Thrall Lo-pac and Gunderson bulkhead cars that span nearly the entirety of double stack container service. The HO scale models of those cars Intermountain continues to produce once in a blue moon are ancient model technology, cheap (quality, that is not price - see the coupler pockets, articulated joints and trucks) and sorely lacking in detail (no stirrups!). Got it. If this is a 3D printed model then fine but if they spent money tooling it.... why? I think the Gunderson cars are salvageable for a superdetailing project, if you can find one cheap or one of the older A-Line kits. There may not be a lot of detail out of the box, but Plano and others provide some good parts for these cars. However, the prices the RTR models go for on ebay is insane, and it makes a project like that uneconomical and unfeasible. The Thrall Lo-Pac on the other hand, is a complete lost cause. I own one, and it's one of my poorer intermodal models. It rides too high, the floor is too thick making the containers ride even higher, no detail, bad articulation joints; the only saving grace are Intermountain trucks, which generally roll and look decent. Fixing the floor thickness is near-impossible, it would be easier to simply measure the model and scratchbuild an improved copy. I would like a Twin Stack as much as you, but I'd argue a Maxi III is needed more in the hobby. These cars were everywhere, and much more common in the 90's and early 2000's. Athearn definitely needs to revisit their Blue-Box era model, especially when you compare it to the Maxi I they also make. The difference is night and day in areas like ladders and plumbing. What happened to making regular run-of-the-mill cars? Granted, the TWF10 car looks pretty cool. If the price is right, maybe I'd be in for one. I think the problem is right there. We love to complain, but at the end of the day, we still end up buying one or two of the weird cars we just complained about. It's like an addiction, and we can't stay away. |
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Post by Donnell Wells on Jun 30, 2022 19:57:51 GMT -8
Yes, the Thrall TWF10 is in a class of it's own, but I'm in! I love unique designs like this, even if it was a maintenance headache in real life! It's like a Thrall well car had a love-child with a Trinity Backpacker!
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Post by lvrr325 on Jun 30, 2022 20:56:23 GMT -8
But the important thing is going to be what sort of box it comes in.
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Post by Christian on Jul 1, 2022 0:38:30 GMT -8
I think the Gunderson cars are salvageable for a superdetailing project, if you can find one cheap or one of the older A-Line kits. There may not be a lot of detail out of the box, but Plano and others provide some good parts for these cars. This one has been underway for a while. I found the A-Line kit for the five-unit car for about $20.00. I have not kept track of what I have invested in parts: Plano, Kadee, DA, DW, BLMA, Tangent, et al. Plus mostly new manufacture containers to replace my aging Walthers containers from the 1990's which don't have the free standing detail to match what I've done with the car. And then research since all of these sets began changing almost as they rolled out the the factory. I do know that I would have never started this kit had I any clue of how much time five cars take when you are "fixing" about everything. As it stands I have one remaining unit needing wire work and then the set is ready for a lot of yellow paint. (Don't ya just love spraying yellow paint!) And then there is decalling - lots of decalling. And some more decalling. I've found that working on almost any other project is more interesting at this point!! Scratch built 1990's Tim Horton's, anyone? I wonder what a state of the art model would cost. There is a lot more freestanding detail and plumbing on these cars than there is on almost any other intermodal car. Of course, that's what makes them interesting. Atlas has done it in O scale and the price is breathtaking.  |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Jul 1, 2022 5:52:22 GMT -8
wonder what a state of the art model would cost. There is a lot more freestanding detail and plumbing on these cars than there is on almost any other intermodal car. Of course, that's what makes them interesting. I’d hate to guess… no I wouldn’t or I wouldn’t have written this  But skyward out of $200 wouldn’t surprise me at all, then add in 10-15 containers of various flavors and you’d be stratospheric..  If someone had some less expensive containers, Operator level, it might make intermodal easier to afford. I don’t see that as it seems that most want the same detail levels in containers as the cars they ride on/in. That dilemma has kept any off my radar. I saw a couple examples of printable images to paste on the side of an appropriately sized box for containers, may even have some “saved” in the computer backup drive 3-4 computers ago, but nothing like that lately. |
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But skyward out of $200 wouldn’t surprise me at all, then add in 10-15 containers of various flavors and you’d be stratospheric..