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Post by 12bridge on Aug 29, 2015 17:25:55 GMT -8
I am afraid to see what those F150s will retail for..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:07:12 GMT -8
Yep, Intermountain on par with Tyco.
Please IM give it up. Stick with freight cars. I just can't stop puking every time I see one of your locomotives.
Brian
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Post by Chad on Aug 29, 2015 18:08:17 GMT -8
Looks like Rivarossi got the Burlington Gray correct this time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:12:25 GMT -8
The Ford Pickups are NICE!!!! I'm in with them...
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Post by bdhicks on Aug 29, 2015 18:13:43 GMT -8
OK. Thank You. I hope they make many DM&E & IC&E's. Id buy them all. ;-) Bowser is doing the DME/ICE GMD SD40-2s, they're on the Bowser product page (and I already pre-ordered one). I assume if they weren't at the show it's only because they didn't have decorated samples yet. Unfortunately, DME only had the one GMD SD40-2, although ICE had more (and Bowser has 2 numbers announced for them already).
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Post by curtmc on Aug 29, 2015 19:34:15 GMT -8
Guys, the Ford pickup Atlas is doing is actually the '73 F100, not an F150... The F150 was not introduced until 1975 as an intermediate between the F100 and F250. However, that model is close enough that it will be able to represent any of the smaller F-series from 1973-1978 (1979 was also similar but had squared headlights in different grill)...
Anyway, it's a nice pickup that we will be able to use on an open or partially enclosed autorack in the 1972-1979 era... In 1976 the Ford F-series pickup became the highest sales pickup in the US (still is).
Where were the 1970s F-series pickups assembled? Dearborn and Wayne, MI Edison, NJ Kansas City, MO Louisville, KY Norfolk, VA San Jose, CA St. Paul, MN
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Post by drolsen on Aug 29, 2015 21:59:10 GMT -8
I'm not sure why, but I've always loved those Canadian SD40-2s, probably because they were pretty common on CSX in the mid-'90s around Baltimore. The Bowser models look great, and I can't wait to pick up a few of those. I just have to look through the extensive info about them and figure out which CP schemes are appropriate for 1998. I definitely have to get one of the CP dual flags, but I think the standard CP scheme, both with and without multimark, were common too.
Dave
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Post by kcjones on Aug 29, 2015 22:07:53 GMT -8
Oops! My bad. Your right. Says so right there on the tag...F 100!!!
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Post by Judge Doom on Aug 29, 2015 23:15:03 GMT -8
PS. I hope Bowser puts the snow shields on their ON SD40-2s. IM failed to. In terms of Canadian features, IM's SD40-2's were barely above a stock Athearn blue-box. Headlights on the nose and a pathetic bell mount. No attention to phase/nose details, steps, plows, class lights, handrails. Bring on the Bowser! I'm not sure why, but I've always loved those Canadian SD40-2s, probably because they were pretty common on CSX in the mid-'90s around Baltimore. The Bowser models look great, and I can't wait to pick up a few of those. I just have to look through the extensive info about them and figure out which CP schemes are appropriate for 1998. I definitely have to get one of the CP dual flags, but I think the standard CP scheme, both with and without multimark, were common too. Dave Mid 90's, the "System" or Dual flags units were common (and being painting), but the sheer number of small multimark SD40-2 units outnumbered them easily. There was also the interm non-multi livery a lot of units had, and a good number of large multi units still around, plus St. Lawrence & Hudson repaints in the same SOO candy apple red the System units got. However, units with the (earlier) smaller, full front cab striping were all but gone by then, everything had the larger nose-only stripes.
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Post by Brakie on Aug 30, 2015 2:31:38 GMT -8
Wow...all this time...for that GP10...and whaaaaaaaaa? It's not going to have a problem going through your lake areas on your respective layouts... The shell looks like it was 3D printed...to me, anyway. Glad I didn't order any. Think I'll wait to see the finish product instead of a raw unfinished example before I pass judgment. If the finish product is bad then I save money and will buy a Walthers GP9m for a project stand in GP10.I did that project once and it look fairly decent considering its stable mates..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 3:19:18 GMT -8
To each their own. The Walthers GP9m has its own issues, too. The engine definitely (GP10) is sitting too high on the trucks...maybe it's a stand in shell? Either way...they put it on display.
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Post by markfj on Aug 30, 2015 4:40:22 GMT -8
Wow, lots of great new products for sure! Thanks for all the photos; once again the “ARF” in-the-field reporter network comes through. Those who could not attend really appreciate it. Those BLMA cars, especially that new covered hopper, are really nice. Any pricing info on the new hopper? Yes, I agree with the earlier comment about the “orangish” strip color on Rapido’s Amtrak F40. Weird camera lighting, or is it more orange than red? Also, I’m really impressed by that Center Valley bridge; are those kits or preassembled? Overall, I would say this is a pretty good start to the modeling season. Thanks again, Mark
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Post by riogrande on Aug 30, 2015 5:35:27 GMT -8
I thought you'd all excited about that SP F-70-43 Bulkhead car Jim, I can see a few in my future - In fact I went thru my old MDC cars today and grabbed all but a couple to peddle off at the next swap meet. For sure! When WOT announced the N scale SP bulkheads, I as like, dang nice but wanted them in HO. So now the F-70-43 are coming next year in HO - I'm very pleased! They were very common in lumber trains coming out of the Pacific Northwest and across the D&RGW. Also common were the F-70-59 & F-70-61 SP bulkheads which were similar to the -43 except the bulkheads had a different profile. If someone offered those as well, that would be me sorted, As my British wife would say! I have some of the Athearn/MDC cars as stand-in's until something better comes along for them. They are visually very similar to a number of prototypes such as MILW, BN, UP, and very close to a class of SSW bulkheads. IIRC, the biggest difference between the Athearn/MDC builkhead is they are shorter than most of the prototypes they look similar to. If you save any of those, save the SSW, I think those are the closest - IIRC Cotton Belt had some very similar in length. Most of the ones I have now came with the lumber load, which look pretty nice. I'll probably pilfer a couple of those loads for the WOT bulkheads - hopefully they will fit! I am planning on peddling the MDC SP bulkhead.
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Post by TBird1958 on Aug 30, 2015 5:39:16 GMT -8
Wow, lots of great new products for sure! Thanks for all the photos; once again the “ARF” in-the-field reporter network comes through. Those who could not attend really appreciate it. Those BLMA cars, especially that new covered hopper, are really nice. Any pricing info on the new hopper? Yes, I agree with the earlier comment about the “orangish” strip color on Rapido’s Amtrak F40. Weird camera lighting, or is it more orange than red? Also, I’m really impressed by that Center Valley bridge; are those kits or preassembled? Overall, I would say this is a pretty good start to the modeling season. Thanks again, Mark The color in most of the shots I took are a bit off, again it's the room's lighting that causes that, those fixtures actually diminish reds, the models were fine. That Central Valley bridge is very impressive - it's a kit tho!
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Post by alcors32 on Aug 30, 2015 6:10:49 GMT -8
Wow...all this time...for that GP10...and whaaaaaaaaa? It's not going to have a problem going through your lake areas on your respective layouts... The shell looks like it was 3D printed...to me, anyway. Glad I didn't order any. Think I'll wait to see the finish product instead of a raw unfinished example before I pass judgment. If the finish product is bad then I save money and will buy a Walthers GP9m for a project stand in GP10.I did that project once and it look fairly decent considering its stable mates.. Hello Intermountain
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Post by alcors32 on Aug 30, 2015 6:12:32 GMT -8
Wow...all this time...for that GP10...and whaaaaaaaaa? It's not going to have a problem going through your lake areas on your respective layouts... The shell looks like it was 3D printed...to me, anyway. Glad I didn't order any. Think I'll wait to see the finish product instead of a raw unfinished example before I pass judgment. If the finish product is bad then I save money and will buy a Walthers GP9m for a project stand in GP10.I did that project once and it look fairly decent considering its stable mates..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 6:31:47 GMT -8
The Bowser SD40-2 looks pretty nice. I look forward to the QNS&L versions. I may have a get a few x2.
Brian
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Post by TBird1958 on Aug 30, 2015 7:09:19 GMT -8
The Bowser SD40-2 looks pretty nice. I look forward to the QNS&L versions. I may have a get a few x2. Brian I looked at the unpainted sample of that version closely and thought it looked really good - love the massive fuel tank. It's a very impressive effort on Bowser's part. I can't begin to explain the Intermountain GP10, seeing it running around in circles in raw translucent gray plastic with it's headlight lighting up the entire cab and front end of the loco did in fact remind me of my first Tyco F7. It rides way too high, I was surprised they'd even show it looking like that, especially when every body else was showing such impressive stuff.
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Post by riogrande on Aug 30, 2015 7:44:10 GMT -8
I guess IMR figured they should have something to show rather than just print. Only thing is hopefully they will continue to listen to the feedback and make improvements so the final product is something the GP10 fans will be pleased with. IMR does seem like they are in a continuous improvement mode, which is good. Back in the 1990's it was like that with Lifelikes Proto 2000 line of diesels. They would produce them and as modelers commented and gave feedback, you would often see improvements in subsequent runs what usually addressed the major concerns. It is understandable how issues with a displayed model could create more concerns rather than increase anticipation and interest.
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Post by carrman on Aug 30, 2015 8:12:37 GMT -8
Btw, Craig Walker from Athearn confirmed that they will be doing the SDP40F in HO. He said I can post that publicly.
Dave
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Post by Brakie on Aug 30, 2015 8:53:25 GMT -8
The Bowser SD40-2 looks pretty nice. I look forward to the QNS&L versions. I may have a get a few x2. Brian I looked at the unpainted sample of that version closely and thought it looked really good - love the massive fuel tank. It's a very impressive effort on Bowser's part. I can't begin to explain the Intermountain GP10, seeing it running around in circles in raw translucent gray plastic with it's headlight lighting up the entire cab and front end of the loco did in fact remind me of my first Tyco F7. It rides way too high, I was surprised they'd even show it looking like that, especially when every body else was showing such impressive stuff. I wonder if the just stuck the shell on a drive? The way it is now it looks terrible.. I would think twice before I would pull a stunt like that unless I had a large red sign with bold white letters (and maybe with bright chase lights) that stated: Production GP10 test blank!!!
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Post by curtmc on Aug 30, 2015 10:20:53 GMT -8
MTH and Accurail staying true to "stand in" modeling... MTH announcing GP38-2 in B&O Chessie System paint (too bad Chessie never had any GP38-2 units as both the 3800 and 4800 series were regular GP38s) and Accurail announcing the PS4750cf covered hopper in a 3-pack of B&O, C&O and WM gray cars (never mind that those schemes and numbers should be on PS4740cf cars. B&O did have PS4750cf cars like the Accurail base model but they were delivered in B&O Chessie paint)...
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Post by rails4dmv on Aug 30, 2015 12:25:16 GMT -8
Any future production news from Kato in HO?
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Aug 30, 2015 13:55:50 GMT -8
And my shot of the IM GP10 JL That Intermountain GP10 looks like they glued some Plano etched EMD latches on the doors. The stanchions look much to wide. Again, Intermountain's locomotive tooling is iffy.
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Post by jonklein611 on Aug 30, 2015 16:21:46 GMT -8
Any future production news from Kato in HO? Kato's having some production delay issues, even in N scale. From one of my Japanese supplier's newsletters: KATO didn't announce new pre-order for August due to their production delay. From back in February: - Due to an epidemic of influenza at KATO's factory employee, they are sure those new product release will be delay. Especially those models they just announced (RhB "Allegra" and Series 381 "Panorama Shinano") will be impacted. To recover this situation, Mr. Kato and his team suggested alternative plan to make some re-run of certain train model and asked retailers for opinion. As it was a serious conversation between KATO and retailers, you may find unexpected announcement of re-run of certain item. I'm assuming they will catch up on N scale production first. I'll let you know if I hear anything.
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Post by valenciajim on Aug 30, 2015 17:11:18 GMT -8
A few thoughts about the new items.
Walthers, I did not think much of the SD70's. They are going to end up discounting these a lot. I asked about the fallen flag series. They just gave the same response as in their announcement. When I asked them about the short period of time between the announcement and cancellation, they moved away from me and started talking to someone else. They must have figured I was a trouble maker.
Rapido--it was a blast meeting Jason and the Rapido products are simply outstanding.
IM--I thought the locomotive looked better than I expected.
Woodland Scenics--the lighting system is OK, but it is very expensive.
BLMA--fabulous beer cards and the signals looked great.
There were a number of new wooden kit makers that looked very interesting.
I am still traveling on vacation, when I return, I hope to post my thought on the NMRA convention.
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Post by drolsen on Aug 30, 2015 19:39:27 GMT -8
Mid 90's, the "System" or Dual flags units were common (and being painting), but the sheer number of small multimark SD40-2 units outnumbered them easily. There was also the interm non-multi livery a lot of units had, and a good number of large multi units still around, plus St. Lawrence & Hudson repaints in the same SOO candy apple red the System units got. However, units with the (earlier) smaller, full front cab striping were all but gone by then, everything had the larger nose-only stripes. Judge, thanks for the feedback, that's very helpful. As with all my research of the late '90s time period, online photos are few and far between, so it's hard to tell when exactly these units were repainted. Are there any good Canadian websites that list that kind of information? I also like to look for examples of the specific unit numbers (e.g. CP 5237) operating in the mid-Atlantic region that I model. That's where photos from the time period come in handy. I'm not a complete stickler for that, but it's always nice to see an example of particular unit in Baltimore or Cumberland in the time period I'm modeling. Dave
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Post by Judge Doom on Aug 30, 2015 20:11:50 GMT -8
Judge, thanks for the feedback, that's very helpful. As with all my research of the late '90s time period, online photos are few and far between, so it's hard to tell when exactly these units were repainted. Are there any good Canadian websites that list that kind of information? I also like to look for examples of the specific unit numbers (e.g. CP 5237) operating in the mid-Atlantic region that I model. That's where photos from the time period come in handy. I'm not a complete stickler for that, but it's always nice to see an example of particular unit in Baltimore or Cumberland in the time period I'm modeling. Dave Generally, stuff assigned the D&H/STL&H (and Toronto) had a higher chance of wandering in the eastern states, which usually meant earlier series SD40 units like 5500's (SD40 and SD40-2), 5600's (SD40-2) and used n' abused 5400's (leasers, cast-offs, tramps and rebuilds from a bunch of US roads). There weren't any CP SD40-2's assigned SOO's Shoreham shops at the time. Many of the later SD40-2's equipped as Locotrol Masters & Slaves like 5700, 5800 and 6000-numbered units were still in coal and pusher service in the mountains at the time (CP's first group of AC4400CW's were delivered in 1995, prior to that the SD40-2's ruled the mountains). See here for a heap of SD40-2's hard at work out west: . Checking the CP assignment sheets for 1995, SD40-wise Binghampton had groups of early (non-2) 5500's and later SD40-2 5600's assigned, plus a bunch of secondhand 5400's. Toronto had a bunch of SD40 (non-2) 5500's. With the advent of the St. Lawrence & Hudson Ry division in 1997 and CP retiring the last of their Alco/MLW fleet in the mid-to-late 90's, a LOT more 5500- and 5600-series SD40-2's migrated east and into the US to work those lines. If you want specific numbers that roamed you'll want to check the popular photo sites for 90's shots, but I'll dig up the 1997 STL&H PDS and send you what I can find as to what units specifically were assigned down there.
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Post by Brakie on Aug 31, 2015 2:53:10 GMT -8
MTH and Accurail staying true to "stand in" modeling... MTH announcing GP38-2 in B&O Chessie System paint (too bad Chessie never had any GP38-2 units as both the 3800 and 4800 series were regular GP38s) and Accurail announcing the PS4750cf covered hopper in a 3-pack of B&O, C&O and WM gray cars (never mind that those schemes and numbers should be on PS4740cf cars. B&O did have PS4750cf cars like the Accurail base model but they were delivered in B&O Chessie paint)... That's inexcusable maybe even immoral.. Why even bother producing a foobie Chessie GP38-2? Does it have a GP38 number? As far as freight cars I suspect the majority-including me-can't tell a PS4750 from a PS4740 and probably could care less..
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Post by Brakie on Aug 31, 2015 3:00:40 GMT -8
To each their own. The Walthers GP9m has its own issues, too. The engine definitely (GP10) is sitting too high on the trucks...maybe it's a stand in shell? Either way...they put it on display. Yes,that is 100% correct but,why pay top dollar if the IM looks awful because it sets to high on the trucks? I won't accept a locomotive that looks like its about to wade old Cripple Creek with its britches rolled to its knees. I'm hoping the production model sits correctly on its trucks.
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