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Post by sd80mac on Jun 1, 2019 5:14:49 GMT -8
You people really make me laugh sometimes. "DON'T ANNOUNCE ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL YOU DELIVER EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE ANNOUNCED!!!1" What in the actual !@#$? So we can wait 2-3 more years once EVERYTHING gets delivered for the next round of products? I'm glad you knuckleheads aren't in charge!
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Post by rockfan on Jun 1, 2019 5:22:32 GMT -8
I think they did the FL9 for a few reasons. They had the tooling for the FP7/9, and why not go the extra mile and do a model nobody has done except in brass.
And I'm sure they'll rerun them with different paint schemes in the future.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Jun 1, 2019 5:30:48 GMT -8
I think they did the FL9 for a few reasons. They had the tooling for the FP7/9, and why not go the extra mile and do a model nobody has done except in brass. And I'm sure they'll rerun them with different paint schemes in the future. And, Rapido has already said it's doing the "Modernized" FL9 in future. So there's that to look forward to, if it fits one's era.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 7:35:44 GMT -8
GE?
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Post by carrman on Jun 1, 2019 7:40:42 GMT -8
Instead of a NEW ANNOUNCEMENT. HOW ABOUT LET'S GET THE LONG LIST OF ITEMS ALREADY ANNOUNCED DELIVERED!!!!!!!. AMEN !!!!!!! Always making announcemrnts, but never delivering. You must be talking about Intermountain. Rapido delivers, and has test shots of future product to show. I may not like Canadian prototypes, but they ARE a stand up company who does deliver. We need more Rapidos in our hobby and less Intermountains. Dave
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Post by bnsf971 on Jun 1, 2019 8:50:53 GMT -8
Instead of a NEW ANNOUNCEMENT. HOW ABOUT LET'S GET THE LONG LIST OF ITEMS ALREADY ANNOUNCED DELIVERED!!!!!!!. So, you think Rapido should announce one thing, then absolutely nothing else for 2-3 years until that one thing is released? Then no other news until the next one thing is brought to market? How long do you think any company would be relevant, or even stay in business, following your suggested business model?
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Post by packer on Jun 1, 2019 9:00:22 GMT -8
Phase II car body F40PH?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 11:17:28 GMT -8
If you look at the Rapido production schedule they are easily 2 years out. They are up to July 2020, plus they have promised reruns not on the list like the RS11 and several others. I could care less about 'new announcements' just get what you have promised done. Three years is a long ways off. Even ScaleTrains announcement to delivery date is far superior.
Well, July 2020 is essentially only a year away...
Beside, there are a lot of different factors in a production schedule, and design / tool / factory availability are only part of it.
Rapido also I believe recently moved one of their factories and that likely caused significant disruption which would now be gone.
If Rapido are about to announce a bunch more product then they believe they have the capacity to produce the items in a reasonable time frame (subject to unforeseen issues that any company runs into), and the recent expansion of their office staff is an indication that they believe they have the capacity in China to deliver.
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Post by roadkill on Jun 1, 2019 11:48:32 GMT -8
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Post by csx3305 on Jun 1, 2019 12:25:17 GMT -8
Pummeling the like button on that one, Tom.
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Post by stephen on Jun 1, 2019 12:26:10 GMT -8
When a company announces products so far ahead of what has already been announced, some tend to cancel items that they ordered that they necessarily do not need, and order the new announcement that they do need, hence loss of sales on the importers part. Come on guys grow some common sense here. --production goes to July 2020 and there are 5 more items with TBA --take in account the 2nd releases and we are at the end of the 2020 and more. Rapido is slow to deliver. If Scale Trains can deliver in a timely manner why can't Rapido. Sometimes it is so long for delivery that I loose interest. If they want to make an announcement that is fine with me, but dog nabbit deliver what is coming in the next 2 years that is already announced. End of story. Just my opinion. Just how the ball rolls. Just the way some look at it. Just the way it is. I just get tired of the long waits that goes on and on. So be it! WAIT A MINUTE --- Let's make a NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!
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Post by csx3305 on Jun 1, 2019 12:29:38 GMT -8
The B36-7’s are already more than a year past announcement, and will probably not show up until Nov/ Dec. That would put them close to the two year mark.
I’m not complaining, as it gives me more time to budget for them.
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Post by rockfan on Jun 1, 2019 12:51:30 GMT -8
That's how I see it, they're never on time, but you put money aside for when they are supposed to arrive and when it is available it's not a problem.
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Post by csx3305 on Jun 1, 2019 12:59:52 GMT -8
I would also add that if you become disenchanted with a new model between announcement and delivery, you probably didn’t truly want it in the first place.
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Post by drolsen on Jun 1, 2019 13:18:20 GMT -8
Are these announcements different from the ones posted on the Facebook RR Modelers group from the NERPM in Farmington, CT? Someone posted photos of Rapido flyers for a USRA 40’ double sheathed wood box car, new schemes on the 3800 cuft cylindrical hopper, and paint schemes for the rebuilt FL9.
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 15:02:33 GMT -8
Are these announcements different from the ones posted on the Facebook RR Modelers group from the NERPM in Farmington, CT? Someone posted photos of Rapido flyers for a USRA 40’ double sheathed wood box car, new schemes on the 3800 cuft cylindrical hopper, and paint schemes for the rebuilt FL9. Dave
The box car is likely to be one of them I would guess, but according to Rapido on Twitter it is "we announce 5 new products in both HO scale and N scale" so it sounds like the 3800 and FL9 may not count (also, supposed to be all US stuff so that would likely further rule out the 3800s).
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Post by el3672 on Jun 1, 2019 17:11:35 GMT -8
A few folks have speculated about Comet cars. Rode them as a kid on Jersey Transit. Wow... Yes Rapido sell me (many of) the Comet 1 commuter cars! My mind and wallet are ready. Cab cars/ coaches/ cafes cars. These cars introduced back in the early 70's replaced the Vulnerable old Erie Stillwell commuter cars on the EL. A bunch of these comet cars have second refurbished lives on the Utah Front Runner train sets to this day 45 years later, amazing. Oh so what power pulled these comet train sets back in the day? Let's have the GE U-34-CH!!! and many more Rapido GE six axle units to follow.
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Post by cp6027 on Jun 1, 2019 18:20:43 GMT -8
Hopefully announcing corrected numbers on the CNIS and CN "Environmental Mode" 3800s that actually match the prototype! (The selected numbers CNIS 368063, 368226, and 368239; and CN 371255, 371355, 371362 and 371375 are for prototypes that do not match the model) He said all US stuff! So is it all northeast stuff or is there something for Western fans as well? Yes, I saw the new announcements will be US stuff. The point of my comment referencing the Canadian 3800 was that the last big hyped announcement, the second run of 3800s, contained numerous inaccuracies in artwork, body styles and roadnumbers that were pointed out on this forum (and other places). Rapido subsequently corrected some of these items by quietly changing the artwork on their website (although most dealers still show the old stuff), but has not changed others. I applaud Rapido for making the changes they did but it seems strange for a company that stakes its name on "crazy amounts of detail" to select roadnumbers that are not an exact match. I can understand this if a "close enough" car allows them to add a new paint scheme, but for the CNIS and CN cars, accurate numbers are available for those schemes (and in fact some, but not all, of the roadnumbers Rapido selected for these schemes are an exact match).
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Post by ashland on Jun 1, 2019 19:00:17 GMT -8
You people really make me laugh sometimes. "DON'T ANNOUNCE ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL YOU DELIVER EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE ANNOUNCED!!!1" What in the actual !@#$? So we can wait 2-3 more years once EVERYTHING gets delivered for the next round of products? I'm glad you knuckleheads aren't in charge! Only one knucklehead in this post. If you don't understand whats being said, try to remain silent.
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Post by rapidobill on Jun 2, 2019 6:25:53 GMT -8
A couple of quick comments/clarifications:
ONE of the announcements is indeed the URSA 40' Double-sheathed wood boxcar that we previewed at the NERPM this weekend. The car will have K- or AB brakes (as appropriate), correct USRA Andrews trucks and Carmer Cut levers. Full information will be on our web site Monday with the others.
Regarding product cycles - from the day that we give a go-ahead to a project to the day that you see it available on the shelves tends to be at least two years, often much more. In that last couple of years we have changed the timing of our public product announcements. We now do not announce a project until at least the design work is done, and often not until we have physical samples. This shortens the lead time that you see from announcement to delivery. As to our not delivering anything, this will likely come as a great surprise to our warehouse crew who have been very busy shipping boxes out over the last couple of months, not to mention the dealers who have to pay for those shipments! :>)
Bill Rapido Trains
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Post by jonklein611 on Jun 2, 2019 10:22:59 GMT -8
A couple of quick comments/clarifications: ONE of the announcements is indeed the URSA 40' Double-sheathed wood boxcar that we previewed at the NERPM this weekend. The car will have K- or AB brakes (as appropriate), correct USRA Andrews trucks and Carmer Cut levers. Full information will be on our web site Monday with the others. Regarding product cycles - from the day that we give a go-ahead to a project to the day that you see it available on the shelves tends to be at least two years, often much more. In that last couple of years we have changed the timing of our public product announcements. We now do not announce a project until at least the design work is done, and often not until we have physical samples. This shortens the lead time that you see from announcement to delivery. As to our not delivering anything, this will likely come as a great surprise to our warehouse crew who have been very busy shipping boxes out over the last couple of months, not to mention the dealers who have to pay for those shipments! :>) Bill Rapido Trains +1 I've noticed a huge improvement in delivery times. Those of us that waited patiently for the LRC's to come know what it used to be like with Rapido.
Having the year or so lag time allows me to budget for what I've ordered. Keep up the good work!
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Post by Paul Cutler III on Jun 2, 2019 16:43:50 GMT -8
Amazing the number of Veruca Salts we have on this forum, isn't it?
"I don't care how, I want it now!"
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Post by rapidotrains on Jun 2, 2019 17:18:39 GMT -8
A couple of quick comments/clarifications: ONE of the announcements is indeed the URSA 40' Double-sheathed wood boxcar that we previewed at the NERPM this weekend. The car will have K- or AB brakes (as appropriate), correct USRA Andrews trucks and Carmer Cut levers. Full information will be on our web site Monday with the others. Regarding product cycles - from the day that we give a go-ahead to a project to the day that you see it available on the shelves tends to be at least two years, often much more. In that last couple of years we have changed the timing of our public product announcements. We now do not announce a project until at least the design work is done, and often not until we have physical samples. This shortens the lead time that you see from announcement to delivery. As to our not delivering anything, this will likely come as a great surprise to our warehouse crew who have been very busy shipping boxes out over the last couple of months, not to mention the dealers who have to pay for those shipments! :>) Bill Rapido Trains It's almost like this guy knows what he's talking about.... We're on the wrong track, Bill. We should be producing one new model every two years and announce it the day it's released, dang it! If we switch to that schedule, I'm told John Sheridan can help you with your resume. But he may end up just doodling cats all over it. -Jason
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Post by lackawanna1223 on Jun 3, 2019 7:58:35 GMT -8
Y’know the Danbury Railway Museum (site of the launch) has TWO 44 TONners.
PLEASE BE 44 TONNERS!!!
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Post by ADK on Jun 3, 2019 8:25:04 GMT -8
Ski Train! I'm going to be broke, literally.
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Post by riogrande on Jun 3, 2019 8:26:50 GMT -8
Knew it was coming! Since I back dated to 1977-1983, pre-Tempo ski train, I've dodged the bullet! It should be very handsome.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 8:53:36 GMT -8
Those Amtrak cars would complete a superb 1980's Amtrak train...it's very tempting.
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jun 3, 2019 8:56:42 GMT -8
So what was announced? A Ski Train?
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Post by jonklein611 on Jun 3, 2019 8:57:13 GMT -8
So what was announced? A Ski Train? In this newsletter: New! Amtrak Horizon Cars – HO and N New! Commuter Comets - HO and N New! Later Phase F40PH Locomotives - HO New! Rio Grande Ski Train - HO New! USRA Double-Sheathed Wood Boxcar - HO Not New At All! Rebuilt FL9 Relaunch - HO Video: Remembering Mike McGrattan Video: HO Scale FA-2 and FB-2 In Action! Big Order Deadline: June 24th CPR FP7 Spotlight Fix Our Model Railroad Community Canadian N Scale Teaser
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