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Post by hudsonyard on Sept 4, 2023 10:43:01 GMT -8
closed angle cocks are perfect for a car thats been bad ordered to the RIP track for a bent frame, maybe they should sell white line decals for the reporting marks too.
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Post by soggycornflakes on Sept 24, 2023 15:13:12 GMT -8
Has anyone had any success contacting Class One? One of my cars is missing a bearing cap; it may have fallen off during its 15 minute run before being relegated to the RIP track. I've emailed them, but getting crickets in return...
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 24, 2023 15:22:08 GMT -8
I had no luck with e-mail. But when I phoned, the Big Guy answered and cleared things up.
Try phoning.
One of my cars is also missing a bearing cap--please let us know what you find out.
Ed
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Post by locochris on Sept 24, 2023 16:51:16 GMT -8
Yeah I tried emailing for a missing air hose on my well car. After a week of no replies I called and got someone to send me one right away.
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Post by redfish on Sept 24, 2023 17:24:04 GMT -8
I picked up a Conrail flat at White Rose Hobbies last week. I got lucky. No issues with my car.
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Post by simulatortrain on Sept 24, 2023 18:36:47 GMT -8
I did get my replacement bearing caps, but I may have to call- I was missing both styles and only got the one. My fault I suppose, I didn't specify.
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Post by soggycornflakes on Oct 2, 2023 20:23:45 GMT -8
Update. I received an email response to my inquiry, and they’re sending me a couple of bearing caps in the mail!
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Post by drolsen on Oct 3, 2023 14:51:59 GMT -8
I emailed them on Sept 17 to request to return one of my depressed center flat cars. I believe the color is incorrect on the model, so I included scans of the prototype lettering diagram and painting guide along with their photo of the prototype and a photo of my model for comparison. I didn’t hear anything for a week, so I emailed them again on Sept 24. No response for another week, so I emailed them again yesterday. It’s now 46 days since they shipped my order (return policy says you need to initiate the return request within 40 days, so I first emailed them at 30 days). I’ll have to call them, apparently. I spoke to them when I placed this order, to correct my shipping address, so I’m sure they’ll answer. It’s just not easy for me to call during the work day.
Dave
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Post by drolsen on Oct 15, 2023 4:18:40 GMT -8
I finally received a return shipping label from Class One Model Works on Oct 11 along with a brief email apologizing for the delay in responding to my Sep 17 return request.
I like the product ideas they’re pursuing, so I really hope they can avoid quality control and research / artwork issues like this with their future models. I like the red CSX flat that I’m keeping, now that it’s straightened out. They’ve been sending out email ads for package deals on a set of all four numbers of the depressed center flat cars (four Conrail cars, for example). Sales must be a little slow on these, and word of the quality control issues can’t help. In the photo of the four Conrail cars, you can clearly see the warping on one of them.
Dave
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Post by grabirons on Oct 19, 2023 4:35:10 GMT -8
For some reason my car won't move. My switch crew on the ground can't turn the angel cocks because they said, they're molded in place!! Infact, I was told that none of the freight cars have brakes or brake wheels. Braking is purely used by the stopping of the locomotives up front, really weird, I know!!
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Post by prr 4467 on Oct 19, 2023 9:00:00 GMT -8
The couplers are Class One's copy of a #5. I pitched them and used Kadee. The only copy that seems decent to me are those on Walther's. Everyone else thinks they can be as good as KD but mostly fail. They should just give into the Schwartz and go with KD and save us having to change out a bazillion couplers. I've got a crap ton of Atlas and Genesis to change out. Thank God Intermountain, Tangent, ExactRail, Moloco and Wheels of Time come with Kadee's. I agree with Jim. The only copy that works decently well is Walthers, and I still change out those on locos because I like the appearance of Kadee 158 better. However, the few Walthers Proto freight cars that I do have, I have found that leaving the couplers on them results in acceptable performance. Most of my rolling stock is now Bowser, Tangent, Moloco, ExactRail, ScaleTrains, with a few Genesis cars. Anything that doesn't have a real Kadee coupler on it gets a genuine Kadee replacement. Oh, I forgot: most of my ScaleTrains rolling stock and locos are converted over to Kadee 158 as well, because ST couplers may look nice but they do not play well with other makes. As soon as one of those stops working well, it gets replaced. I cannot afford to have wrecks and train break-aparts due to poor couplers. |
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Post by riogrande on Oct 19, 2023 9:40:20 GMT -8
I too prefer the look of the KD 158. I have a lot of Athearn/Genesis and Atlas cars to replace couplers on. Time is the problem. Before KD raised the prices on the bulk packs I bought two 50 bulk packs of 158's.
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Post by cemr5396 on Oct 19, 2023 10:51:46 GMT -8
Oh, I forgot: most of my ScaleTrains rolling stock and locos are converted over to Kadee 158 as well, because ST couplers may look nice but they do not play well with other makes. IMO Scale Trains couplers are about as bad as it gets, appearance wise. Even the cheapo garbage plastic knuckle couplers that used to be popular look better, at least if you don't look at them too close. (I'm not talking about the ones Athearn uses now, I'm talking about the ones that had a plastic finger looking 'spring' to hold the knuckle closed). They stick out oddly too far and they are proportioned all wrong, they are too "flat" for their size. They should be taller top to bottom to look more proportional. They remind me of those garbage couplers MTH used to have with the 'operating' knuckle, appearance wise at least. And as you mentioned, they don't work worth a crap either. As far as I'm concerned they're not worth the material they are made out of. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Oct 19, 2023 10:53:38 GMT -8
I too prefer the look of the KD 158. I have a lot of Athearn/Genesis and Atlas cars to replace couplers on. Time is the problem. Before KD raised the prices on the bulk packs I bought two 50 bulk packs of 158's. 158, 153, 156, 118 and 119 are all I use these days. Anything that doesn't have one of those gets changed. The non-Kadees get pitched and the Kadees get pawned off on my buddies at the model RR club  |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Oct 20, 2023 0:57:02 GMT -8
IMO Scale Trains couplers are about as bad as it gets, appearance wise. They look so bad that I don't even know how they work!  |
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Post by jacksong1218 on Oct 20, 2023 6:35:23 GMT -8
While we are on the topic of couplers... I have been changing out all of my couplers for legacy Sergent or new Prototype Couplers couplers. For me they operate much better and easier than Kadees, and are more in scale than 158s. I haven't tried the new Inventive Models couplers but have heard good things.
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Oct 22, 2023 4:55:44 GMT -8
While we are on the topic of couplers... I have been changing out all of my couplers for legacy Sergent or new Prototype Couplers couplers. For me they operate much better and easier than Kadees, and are more in scale than 158s. I haven't tried the new Inventive Models couplers but have heard good things. Operate better and easier? Any tricks/advice/words of wisdom you wish to share? I tried them years ago and found them fiddly, but figured I would get better with practice. Most comments I read though are that they are more work to operate with -- though I also figured more prototypical. I'm strongly considering switching soon, mostly to get rid of the slack in Kadee's couplers. |
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Post by jacksong1218 on Oct 22, 2023 11:58:07 GMT -8
Operate better and easier? Any tricks/advice/words of wisdom you wish to share? I tried them years ago and found them fiddly, but figured I would get better with practice. Most comments I read though are that they are more work to operate with -- though I also figured more prototypical. I'm strongly considering switching soon, mostly to get rid of the slack in Kadee's couplers. I have found that reeming out the centering pin hole a bit allows them to rotate better in thr draft gear box. Also adding a bit of graphite (just from a pencil) works wel in all joints. The uncoupling from a magnet from above works great, much eaiser than fiddling with a skewer like a kadee. I saw on another group that someone made centering springs for them like kadee 158s, have tried them but they look good. |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Apr 5, 2024 6:58:56 GMT -8
Is there a list of the Railroads that owned these Cars?
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Post by middledivision on Apr 5, 2024 7:07:53 GMT -8
^^^
On their website
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Apr 5, 2024 7:39:21 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 5, 2024 8:01:56 GMT -8
I couldn't find such a list on their website. But I've "not found" before, so..... Anyway, I found this list of railroads that bought GSC castings for underframes, which would include the Class One prototypes: eaneubauer.ipower.com/GSIpub.pdfMakes great reading! Ed |
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Post by drolsen on Apr 5, 2024 14:15:37 GMT -8
Is there a list of the Railroads that owned these Cars? I would be cautious about going off the road names on their website. I’m not sure about the other road names, but in the case of their red CSX flatcars, one number (CSXT 600392) matches the prototype, but the prototype for the other number (CSXT 600291) is a car with a longer deck than the model. That tells me that some of the roadnames and / or numbers may be stand ins for similar cars. Dave |
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Post by ernestbaron on Aug 29, 2024 9:59:42 GMT -8
I hate to dig up this thread from awhile ago. However, I was working on re-lettering one of these for a client this past week and finally had a chance to look closely at the car.
I've studied freight car general arrangements in the past and know that usually with a depressed center car, there are air brake components on each end, and the connecting air line gets routed along one side of the car. Why is it that the car has an airline on BOTH sides of the car? Shouldn't it only be on one side? This seems like a glaring error to me, and I'm surprised I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else.
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Post by drolsen on Aug 29, 2024 11:01:44 GMT -8
Why is it that the car has an airline on BOTH sides of the car? Shouldn't it only be on one side? A brake pipe on both sides of the car indicates that the car has truck-mounted brakes. I.e. the brake cylinder to actuate the brakes is mounted on the trucks themselves. The line on one side of the car is the normal trainline pipe connecting the air hoses at each end of the car. The other one connects the trucks together. The trainline connects to one truck, if I recall correctly, and then the second pipe on the opposite side of the car connects that truck to the other one. You can see this on some ACF Centerflow covered hoppers, probably the easiest cars on which to identify the second brake line. Dave |
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