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Post by wagnersteve on Mar 30, 2024 6:17:44 GMT -8
3/30/2024, starting 10:11 a.m.
Jim, the new link works fine. Thanks. I still have a great many of Athearn's earlier 40' trailers, some of them being the "blue box" kind in liveries I don't want to get rid of others different. The longest flatcar I can spot on my layout at a siding with a ramp at its end can't hold a flat longer than 85 scale feet, and a "tractor" truck pulling it off would have trouble turning. So I have only one or two 45' trailers I couldn't resist buying because I like their paint schemes, including Vermont Railway.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 30, 2024 7:59:33 GMT -8
Longer trailers can fit on "through" cars.
Ed
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Post by grabirons on Mar 30, 2024 13:24:25 GMT -8
Why do they do their announcements at the end of a month? I want to know what's new from a company, I want it on the first of the month.
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Post by cpr4200 on Mar 30, 2024 17:23:16 GMT -8
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Mar 30, 2024 18:28:24 GMT -8
Why do they do their announcements at the end of a month? I want to know what's new from a company, I want it on the first of the month. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 30, 2024 19:28:56 GMT -8
Why do they do their announcements at the end of a month? I want to know what's new from a company, I want it on the first of the month. But wouldn't April 1 be the perfect date to announce new products? Ed PS: I think you was gotcha'd. |
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Post by bnsfes44c4 on Mar 30, 2024 21:27:42 GMT -8
Anyone else notice the ‘prototype and background info’ on the 40’ trailer page where it explains what a semi-trailer is? It’s weird, it sounds like a Wikipedia entry….and then you realize, it literally IS a copy of the Wikipedia entry for ‘semi-trailer’.
There’s nothing to say about Monfort? Or PIE? But it clears up any confusion over what a semi-trailer is…..
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Post by ncrc5315 on Mar 31, 2024 9:32:24 GMT -8
It's been 60 years since Mom and Dad got married, they went to Colorado for their honeymoon. While in the Greeley area, Dad had to stop at the Monfort feedlot, to look around. Mom's very "proud" of those pictures. Dad said in later years, it might not have been the wisest choice.
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Post by marknycfan on Mar 31, 2024 13:36:42 GMT -8
Why do they do their announcements at the end of a month? I want to know what's new from a company, I want it on the first of the month. Is this really an issue? |
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Post by cellis231 on Mar 31, 2024 15:51:29 GMT -8
Why do they do their announcements at the end of a month? I want to know what's new from a company, I want it on the first of the month. Is this really an issue? For real... Most manufactures just randomly announce stuff or wait till the big train shows. At least Athearn has a predictable pattern. It you don't like it at the end of the month just wait a few days and it will be the beginning of the month then look. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 1, 2024 0:59:55 GMT -8
This is now the complaint, a few days difference in when they announce things? Just wait a week and read it then, it will be the first week of the month.
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Post by wagnersteve on Apr 1, 2024 4:00:17 GMT -8
4/1/2024 (Easter Monday, also April Fools' Day and, for some, of Central European background, a folk holiday probably dating back to pagan times when young men soaked or spritzed young women with water or perfume and/or hit them softly with pussy willow branches substituting for palm leaves that weren't available), starting about 7:42 a.m., EDT
I hope readers will understand that what follows isn't an April Fools' joke, but instead a serious though light-hearted attempt to promote civility, tolerance, amity and good humor.
I recommend what I have called the Thumper principle, after a sequence in Walt Disney's Bambi, the first film I ever saw in a movie theater, a few years after it premiered as one of his first full-length animated features in color. The newly born title character, a fawn, is learning to stand up for the first time. As I recall, Thumper, a rabbit only a little older, says to this own mother, "Kinda wobbly, ain't he?" She replies, "What does your father always say?" He dutifully recites, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all". I think that's good advice, although, like nearly everyone, I don't always act in accordance with it.
Something else memorable that's also older than I am is the song, also popular in the 1940s, with a "catch" or refrain much like this: "You've got to ac-CEN-tuate the positive, e-LIM-inate the negative, latch on to the affirmative -- don't mess with Mr. In-Between."
P.S. Later in the movie Thumper's mother hears him complaining and asks him the same question. He quotes his father, "Eating greens is a special treat; they make long ears and great big feet", but then says, softly, as an aside just to Bambi, "But they still taste awful". I do make sure to eat plenty of salad greens and other vegetables every day.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 1, 2024 5:51:58 GMT -8
I don't know that eliminating the negative is a good idea, but try not to enjoy it so much. Or build on it as a lifestyle or world view.
Ed
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Post by wagnersteve on Apr 2, 2024 4:33:03 GMT -8
4/2/24, starting about 8:30 a.m., EDT
spsf (Janek), please try to have Athearn include the red star under the second A in ADRIAN on the Lenawee County boxcars. If that's done I and others are more likely to buy one.
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Post by gevohogger on Apr 2, 2024 4:42:43 GMT -8
Why do they do their announcements at the end of a month? I want to know what's new from a company, I want it on the first of the month. Is this really an issue? Oh, it's real. There are folks here who get restless / panicky if Walthers/Tangent/Atlas/Athearn or whomever are late with their regularly-scheduled announcements. |
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Post by sd80mac on Apr 2, 2024 7:46:11 GMT -8
Gosh darn Athearn and their *shuffles deck of cards*...predictable announcements!
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Post by riogrande on Apr 2, 2024 7:54:04 GMT -8
Gosh darn Athearn and their *shuffles deck of cards*...predictable announcements! I'd like to predict they would offer a Genesis D&RGW caboose they have mentioned to me. Hope springs eternal. |
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Post by Macowiec on Apr 3, 2024 3:30:18 GMT -8
4/2/24, starting about 8:30 a.m., EDT spsf (Janek), please try to have Athearn include the red star under the second A in ADRIAN on the Lenawee County boxcars. If that's done I and others are more likely to buy one. I wrote Athearn about this, and they responded asking for more information (also about the roof color). Prototype photos have been sent to them, so hopefully the paint will be correct. |
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Post by wagnersteve on Apr 3, 2024 4:32:47 GMT -8
April 3, starting 8:24 a.m., EDT
Macowiec, thanks very much for your getting in touch with Athearn.
You may know about the history of the name Tecumseh. I suspect that you, like most Americans, do not know about Richard Mentor Johnson, who was Vice President of the US when Martin van Buren was President. During the 1836 election campaign, one jingle for him was "Rumsey-dumpsey, Colonel Johnson killed Tecumseh". He is notable for other reasons, as detailed in the Wikipedia article about him.
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Apr 3, 2024 4:39:21 GMT -8
Why do they do their announcements at the end of a month? I want to know what's new from a company, I want it on the first of the month. They're just early....improve your outlook,  |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 3, 2024 5:14:28 GMT -8
I got my "official" Athearn release notification YESTERDAY.
They're LATE!
Ed
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Apr 3, 2024 19:11:36 GMT -8
I got my "official" Athearn release notification YESTERDAY. They're LATE! Ed They were just worried you'd have thought them kidding had it been on the First...  |
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Post by bn7023 on Apr 6, 2024 6:42:14 GMT -8
I'm interested in the 40' Grain Boxcars. The yellow car I bought in 2017 was 0.060 inch (1.5 mm) taller than the old red BB car, so I had a hard time lowering it. 3745 Even so, I think the list price of $23.07 is too low today. |
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Post by sp8234tim on Apr 6, 2024 7:16:41 GMT -8
I'm interested in the 40' Grain Boxcars. The yellow car I bought in 2017 was 0.060 inch (1.5 mm) taller than the old red BB car, so I had a hard time lowering it. 3745Even so, I think the list price of $23.07 is too low today. What size wheel set are in the car & what should it have, 33in? It kind of looks like 36in wheels. Tim Hanesworth |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 6, 2024 8:13:08 GMT -8
I really liked those Athearn cars when they showed up. Since Tangent seems to be doing various 40' boxes, it'd be nice to see them do these. Unfortunately, they're ONLY UP cars. But........ But I forgot that Tangent has ALREADY done a 40' single owner box: the SP with the yellow stripe on the door. Nice cars, I got some! The prototype for the model is UP class B-50-2 (as noted on the model photo above, on the brown car). These were rebuilds done at Albina Shops in 1967-68. They appear to have been assigned to several number groups, starting with UP 113100, and ending somewhere around 117549 (kinda hard to say for sure). BUT. There were several thousand, and they went everywhere and hauled lotsa stuff besides grain. For awhile. There were a couple-three hundred in 1980 and TWO in 1985. Here's a kupla links with pictures: www.railgoat.railfan.net/other_cars/up_cars/up_class/box/bf050-02.htmwww.rr-fallenflags.org/up/up113491m26.jpgThe last batch seem to have different door styles. Fallen Flags seems the best place to find pix of these. I'm quite sure none were ever done in the UP yellow cushioned load scheme, as they weren't. Cushioned. Ed |
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Post by bn7023 on Apr 6, 2024 9:51:37 GMT -8
 sp8234tim, I apologize for misleading you about the wheel diameter. This photo was taken with a telephoto lens, so the perspective is off. The manufacturer correctly installed 33-inch wheels. Athearn increased the height of the models when they adopted the McHenry coupler. 3873Now, here is the breakdown of the 0.060 inch (1.5 mm) increase in height. The height of the center plate of the truck was 0.024 inch (0.6 mm), the height of the car body bolster was 0.031 inch (0.8 mm), and the double-sided tape for bonding the underfloor and underframe was 0.005 inch (0.1 mm). Look at the next two photos. In both cases, the one on the left is from the BB era, and the one on the right is from the McHenry era. Only some modelers are aware of these.   Edwardsutorik, the relationship between roof walks and ladders is troubling. I think the best solution is not to research such things (lol) Among the following models, only the UP yellow car is Athearn-Roundhouse, and the others are Blue-Box.        These Athearn models have undergone unusual modifications to achieve the correct coupler height. I showed you the coupler boxes for the UP yellow car before.  |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 6, 2024 11:05:17 GMT -8
Edwardsutorik, the relationship between roof walks and ladders is troubling. Yes. Irv was always willing to do cost benefit analysis. The end mold sections were already done, as was the roof*. He would have had to cut a new mold section to do it right, and chose not to. He only did the sides new, for this model. But the sides are accurate. And crude. And very interesting, back in the day. There's a lot to say for that approach! Ed *Ya know, that roof MIGHT have been new, too. His basic 40' box roof had the earlier square panels--this one has the later diagonal. |
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Post by bn7023 on Apr 7, 2024 5:45:10 GMT -8
 Which model of the company's past products do you associate with this title and poor illustration? After much deliberation, I ended up a former Details West insulated boxcar. It was released in 1990 and was succeeded by Athearn in 2002. (A detailed explanation of the prototype was published in the March 1990 issue of RMJ magazine.) 4089If so, the underframe should come with a Hydra-Cushion. However, there is nothing written in the specifications. I wonder if they have any intention of selling this model. BN/WFE (Details West, Tamiya camel yellow and Herald King Decal)  BN/WFE (Athearn RTR, ATH74804 released in 2009)  |
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Post by riogrande on Apr 7, 2024 6:02:35 GMT -8
I thought I had this Details Boxcar prior to 1990, but definitely had several in the early 1990's. I sold them all off years ago.
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Post by bn7023 on Apr 7, 2024 7:11:14 GMT -8
Details West released a total of four types of box cars. The following names belong to Athearn. 4128BC500-BC519 Evans Double Door Boxcar, released in 1979  BC600-BC606 Combination Door Boxcar, released in 1981  BC700-BC712 Superior Door Boxcar, released in 1983  BC800-BC806 Yongstown Door Boxcar, released in 1990  Have your doubts been cleared? |
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