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Post by cklx on Jan 25, 2014 4:13:52 GMT -8
Guys, According to Model Railroad News, Rivarossi has test shots of the upcoming U25C at the Amherst show. Picture on the MRN website.Cornelius. |
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Post by jaygee on Jan 25, 2014 4:49:30 GMT -8
Great! Something to run with my Kato SD45. Perhaps this year?
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Post by carrman on Jan 25, 2014 7:08:56 GMT -8
Nice!!
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Post by atsfan on Jan 25, 2014 7:31:41 GMT -8
I guess a step toward reality.
But it seems they are still a long way off from stores.
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Post by roadkill on Jan 25, 2014 8:26:28 GMT -8
Son of a gun... they're really real! This one's gonna hurt the wallet...
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Post by TBird1958 on Jan 25, 2014 8:36:35 GMT -8
That's the coolest GE ever, glad to see it coming together!
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 25, 2014 9:29:04 GMT -8
These'll be more useful to me than the "flares". Very promising. I like how you can see the air tanks. Well, the tops, anyway.
Ed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 9:40:17 GMT -8
Look very nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 9:41:03 GMT -8
These'll be more useful to me than the "flares". Very promising. I like how you can see the air tanks. Well, the tops, anyway. Ed I'll second the motion as being more useful to me than the SD70 flares. |
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Post by trebor on Jan 25, 2014 9:47:45 GMT -8
Oh yes, these are a BIG MIA in my roster. Problem is only 2 r/#'s in PRR. Perhaps later runs will do others?! So CB&Q, NP and PRR are a must, PC CR/PC CR L&N BN are more on my list. Almost as bad as an Alco.
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Jan 25, 2014 12:30:41 GMT -8
Crazy idea and I know it's a little early, but could the new Rivarossi U25C shell be hacked up to build a U25B? A quick comparison to photos looks like it's possible. Don't know if it would be an improvement over the Stewart/Bowser U25B or even worth the cost.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 25, 2014 12:47:40 GMT -8
For your edification and amusement:
The old Rivarossi U25C is a model of an NP phase II. That would be different than the new Rivarossi models. So, I'll keep my old (dummy) one. My Q and PRR ones (dummies) might well get painted for BN. Someday.
The above may be abandoned should the old one look too "sad" next to the new ones.
Ed
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Post by roadkill on Jan 25, 2014 16:06:47 GMT -8
Crazy idea and I know it's a little early, but could the new Rivarossi U25C shell be hacked up to build a U25B? A quick comparison to photos looks like it's possible. Don't know if it would be an improvement over the Stewart/Bowser U25B or even worth the cost. A qualified "yes". It can be done as some did in the past with the '60s Rivi model, but it would be a lot of work. |
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Post by JohnJ on Jan 25, 2014 16:09:37 GMT -8
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Jan 25, 2014 17:43:15 GMT -8
I'm glad I have a heapin' helpin' of these on order. Even though there's no shared tooling with the 1960's version, I'm hoping the Rivarossi "heritage" will also be honored with an all-new Krauss-Maffei...
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Post by atsfan on Jan 25, 2014 19:37:58 GMT -8
Will these be in stores for sale in 2014 I wonder?
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 26, 2014 9:51:43 GMT -8
I'm noting that the wall around the opening for the air tanks appears to be cast on, and to have a significant and noticeable draft angle. The real ones have vertical walls.
I'm suddenly feeling wary about this model.
On the plus side, two out of three versions I'm interested in have black roofs, so touch-up painting after fixing the problem would/should be pretty simple.
Ed
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jan 26, 2014 9:58:26 GMT -8
Wow! It looks like they even got the bends on the cab roof in the right place, unlike a bunch of the Atlas cabs, the Hi-Tech cabs, etc...
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Post by onequiknova on Jan 26, 2014 12:33:06 GMT -8
Wow! It looks like they even got the bends on the cab roof in the right place, unlike a bunch of the Atlas cabs, the Hi-Tech cabs, etc... Really? It looks to me like the slope starts too low above the cab windows. There should be more cab wall between the top of the side windows and the start of the roof slope.  The Proto cab still looks better to my eyes. |
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Post by carrman on Jan 26, 2014 12:41:29 GMT -8
That space is there, but seems to be hidden by the rain gutter strip above the windows on the test shots. The space still might not be tall enough though.
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 12:55:02 GMT -8
Wow! It looks like they even got the bends on the cab roof in the right place, unlike a bunch of the Atlas cabs, the Hi-Tech cabs, etc... Really? It looks to me like the slope starts too low above the cab windows. There should be more cab wall between the top of the side windows and the start of the roof slope. The Proto cab still looks better to my eyes.  You can clearly see the rain gutter on the BN ex-NP U25C and the space between the gutter and the cab roof. The Rivarossi cab is hosed. |
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Post by onequiknova on Jan 26, 2014 12:59:48 GMT -8
That space is there, but seems to be hidden by the rain gutter strip above the windows on the test shots. The space still might not be tall enough though. Dave It looks short to me. It almost reminds me of their low profile export cabs. |
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Post by carrman on Jan 26, 2014 13:00:57 GMT -8
What is so hard about getting U-boat cabs right?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 13:10:43 GMT -8
What is so hard about getting U-boat cabs right? Maybe their measuring stick is broken...  |
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Post by markfj on Jan 26, 2014 13:11:57 GMT -8
Considering these samples are just test shots, is the spacing something that can be fixed for production? Maybe someone should send them an email explaining the differences we’ve noticed between their cab and the prototype.
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Post by alcoc430 on Jan 26, 2014 14:41:04 GMT -8
lets compare it to the original. The drip edge above the side window and height is the same   |
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Post by alcoc430 on Jan 26, 2014 15:14:23 GMT -8
I don't know if I will order one of these since I have the Kaslo upgrade kit (On my to do list) for this and I built a new powered chassis.
How accurate are the bowser/stewart cabs and will it fit the old Rivarossi.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 16:08:02 GMT -8
I don't know if I will order one of these since I have the Kaslo upgrade kit (On my to do list) for this and I built a new powered chassis. How accurate are the bowser/stewart cabs and will it fit the old Rivarossi. The Bowser/Stewart cab is not accurate either. |
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Post by onequiknova on Jan 26, 2014 17:21:17 GMT -8
I guess I didn't realise there were so many poorly done cabs out there. I know the Atlas roof is off. Looking at the Bowser cab online, it looks to be proportioned OK to me, though the tooling is obviously dated. What about the Proto cab? It looks "right" to me, at least when it's sitting next to an Atlas cab. What's wrong with the Hi-tech cab?
It would be cool to do an overlay of the GE cabs out there like someone has done with the Alco cab.
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Post by atsfan on Jan 26, 2014 17:37:52 GMT -8
Considering these samples are just test shots, is the spacing something that can be fixed for production? Maybe someone should send them an email explaining the differences we’ve noticed between their cab and the prototype. No. The tooling is what the tooling is. Those cabs look very weird to me. |
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