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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 1, 2015 13:21:32 GMT -8
Not sure how many forum members have upgraded to Windows 10, but thought I'd pass along a couple comments for those that might be thinking about it.
I upgraded the laptop I use for train related activities from Windows 7 to Windows 10. On that laptop I have your typical software like MS Office, etc., but also the hardware Loco-BufferII and the ESU LokProgrammer, and the corresponding software JMRI and LokProgrammer. I was curious to see if the "drivers" for those hardware devices would be an issue in the upgrade.
The answer is no issues at all. Both JMRI DecoderPro and LokProgrammer run exactly the same as under Windows 7. Didn't have to do anything relative to either one in the upgrade process.
Bob
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Aug 1, 2015 17:06:52 GMT -8
How does it work compared to Windows 7? Better?
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Post by milgentrains on Aug 1, 2015 18:58:06 GMT -8
Since Win 7 is working fine I am loath t upgrade to Win 10. Pros and cons, lease.
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Post by riogrande on Aug 1, 2015 19:09:48 GMT -8
I'm not a big fan of Windows 8 so if Windows 10 has that look, I may just stick with 7 for the forseeable future. I tend to stick with something I know and am used to until I am forced to change.
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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 2, 2015 6:42:06 GMT -8
I'm not a big fan of Windows 8 so if Windows 10 has that look, I may just stick with 7 for the forseeable future. I tend to stick with something I know and am used to until I am forced to change. Jim....as stated I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10. When it was done upgrading my desktop looked AND functioned exactly as it did in Windows 7. If one was not interested in the "active tiled" interface, you wouldn't need to use it. Which I guess begs the question - why upgrade?  Not familiar with Windows 8, so not sure what the result would be. Although everything I've read says Windows 10 gets those with Windows 8 back to a look and function like Windows 7. Bob |
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Post by mlehman on Aug 2, 2015 7:18:16 GMT -8
No experience yet, but a couple of comments based on reporting I've read... W10 gives you options on the look of things. If you want old school, it's there, along with a (unhidden) Start button. If you want it to look like your phone, it will also do that  If you want to watch and wait, that's cool. W10 will be offered free to current W7 and W8 users BUT only for a year...so don't wait too long until you make the decision, because they plan to charge you after that. My biggest, most cynical concern is the claim that there won't be a need for 3rd party virus, etc protection software. It's all supposed to be built into W10. Given MS's past track record on security, well...maybe. Meanwhile, I'm still nursing XP along on this box.  |
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Aug 2, 2015 8:05:32 GMT -8
Anybody know if you go with W10 and don't like it, is it reversible? (The answer to that question seems traditionally to have been "No," but I really have no idea.)
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Post by atsfan on Aug 2, 2015 8:24:35 GMT -8
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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 2, 2015 8:45:03 GMT -8
To put it bluntly so you can understand...your statement is Bull!!! Admittedly the DEFAULT privacy setting do provide MS with a bunch of your data. HOWEVER, you can easily turn that OFF with just a couple mouse clicks. IMHO, like anything else one should investigate and know the issues before one proceeds. Bob |
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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 2, 2015 8:48:32 GMT -8
Anybody know if you go with W10 and don't like it, is it reversible? (The answer to that question seems traditionally to have been "No," but I really have no idea.) Here's link on how to. Bob Restore |
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Post by valenciajim on Aug 2, 2015 9:46:06 GMT -8
I have two computers one has Windows 7 the other has Windows 8. I am thinking about upgrading the one with Windows 8. I love Windows 7 and loathe Windows 8.
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Post by mlehman on Aug 2, 2015 11:30:51 GMT -8
To put it bluntly so you can understand...your statement is Bull!!! Admittedly the DEFAULT privacy setting do provide MS with a bunch of your data. HOWEVER, you can easily turn that OFF with just a couple mouse clicks. IMHO, like anything else one should investigate and know the issues before one proceeds. Bob Why worry about MS? Three letters point out they're the least of your worries... NSA |
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Post by dti406 on Aug 8, 2015 5:00:05 GMT -8
Please note, Windows 10 does not play well with an NVIDA Graphics Card, my Computer Engineer son told us not to upgrade as it will render the computer unusable, by the way my boss at work did that and there is no readable screen for him to see in order to fix anything.
Rick
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Post by riogrande on Aug 10, 2015 5:10:30 GMT -8
Rick, perhaps that's the risk of going with software that isn't mature yet. I prefer to wait until the O/S is seasoned first.
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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 10, 2015 12:56:26 GMT -8
Please note, Windows 10 does not play well with an NVIDA Graphics Card, my Computer Engineer son told us not to upgrade as it will render the computer unusable, by the way my boss at work did that and there is no readable screen for him to see in order to fix anything. Rick Rick....it might be your particular NVIDA video card. I have a NVIDA video card and it works fine with Windows 10. However, I did make sure I had the latest drivers installed before I upgraded. Bob |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Aug 21, 2015 4:28:04 GMT -8
Windows 10 sucks. I used it for 2 weeks on my PC and found that I was totally locked out of my photo and document files when working with them in Photoshop Elements and Corel. It would constantly state I didn't have permission to save at that location without administrator status. I tried several work arounds I found but they were only temporary and did not eliminate the issue. I shut the damn thing down and have gone back to my MAC.
NSA paranoia is ridiculous. I do have a serious problem with the Facebook and Google intrusion into my life.
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Post by Rockin' Rick on Sept 10, 2015 8:06:03 GMT -8
The privacy issues in Windows 10 can be resolved. Make sure you do NOT choose the express upgrade, choose custom, and review your settings as you go. If you've already upgraded, check this out www.pcworld.com/article/2974057/windows/how-to-turn-off-windows-10s-keylogger-yes-it-still-has-one.html . I upgraded from 8.1 to 10 a couple weeks ago. I liked 8/8.1 as an overall OS but hated that Metro crap. The upgrade went well. The new GUI is much improved over the Metro BS of 8. I no longer need to use Classic Shell to make it desktop-centric LOL. Start menu is different but pretty intuitive IMHO. |
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Post by Rockin' Rick on Sept 10, 2015 8:10:24 GMT -8
Oh, and I turned Cortana off, WAY too much of a nuisance for a desktop IMHO. And Edge in its current incarnation truly sucks. You are locked into Bing as a search provider from the URL line. Stick with your current browser...
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Post by atsfan on Sept 10, 2015 17:15:54 GMT -8
Cortana needs to be turned off since opens you up to MS knowing everything.
Windows 8.1 and Metro are Ok on a touch screen laptop but otherwise avoid.
The machines I build I use Windows 7 which is a solid OS.
Mac OS is fine and I have a machine with it but more and more you don't need Mac OS to do anything.
Over all MS does stupid things like they tried with XBONE at first.
Still nowhere near as horrid as Facebook and Google and Android.
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Post by riogrande on Nov 22, 2015 9:45:28 GMT -8
At one time I had the Windows 10 upgrade icon in the system tray, but it's gone now. Does that mean fun's over and the option to upgrade to 10 has passed? Just wondering what my options are and when the upgrade period is over.
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Post by valenciajim on Nov 22, 2015 11:57:44 GMT -8
I upgraded my computer with Windows 8 and I think it was an improvement. I did not upgrade my computer with Windows 7.
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Post by riogrande on Nov 22, 2015 12:43:30 GMT -8
I did have the Windows 10 upgrade icon at one point but it's missing now.
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Post by santafe49 on Nov 22, 2015 15:21:25 GMT -8
The missing W10 icon in the tray is due to so many complaints to Microsoft about the forced implementation of W10.
It was put there by an optional update that was changed to a recommended update and was automatically loaded to your computer. After all the complaints, Microsoft issued another update that removed the update that was causing the icon.
If you run your MS update and look at the installed updates, you will probably find a string of failed installs of W10, each day before the update was removed.
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Post by riogrande on Nov 22, 2015 18:17:49 GMT -8
James, my wife's computer is just to the left of mine and she has Windows 7 and the upgrade icon is present in her tray. *shrugs*
If at some point I want to make the jump, how would I do it?
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Post by atsfan on Nov 22, 2015 18:37:00 GMT -8
James, my wife's computer is just to the left of mine and she has Windows 7 and the upgrade icon is present in her tray. *shrugs* If at some point I want to make the jump, how would I do it? Search around the MS website You are still eleigible But why ? Windows 7 is fine. Windows 8 and 10 are horrid. |
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Post by riogrande on Nov 23, 2015 2:38:10 GMT -8
Only reason I can think of is eventual end of support will come sooner for 7 than 10.
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Post by riogrande on Nov 23, 2015 5:02:06 GMT -8
Terry, so 5 more years apparently for Windows 7. As far as what the operating system will be, apparently Microsoft has announced this is the last version of Windows.
Here are some selected quotes from a Forbes article "UN 17, 2015 @ 07:30 AM When 'Free' Windows 10 Becomes Expensive, You Must Know This"
Found the following FAQ:
FREE UPGRADES OR NOT
Q. Does the Windows 10 free upgrade offer only last 12 months from 29 July 2015 to 29 July 2016?
A. YES
Q. If I am still running Windows 95, Millennium (Me), XP or Vista on my computer can I get a free upgrade to Windows 10?
A. NO
Q. I have a system running Windows 7 with Service Pack 1 – am I eligible for the free Windows 10 upgrade?
A. YES
Q. I have a system running Windows 8 with the Windows 8.1 Update installed – can I get a free upgrade to Windows 10?
A. YES
Q. Can I transfer my Windows 10 installation to another computer after getting the free upgrade?
A. NO
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Post by calzephyr on Nov 23, 2015 6:49:22 GMT -8
How does it work compared to Windows 7? Better? Some issues exist for my use of Windows 10. I upgraded one of my systems from Windows 7 and stayed with 7 on two of my systems. The problem I have is with the display selection of Windows 10. It gives me 4 choices of which none of the resolution choices are correct for the 22" or 24" screens. I Googled how to correct this but I cannot find a way to manual insert the size I need. My only resolution now for that system is to go back to 7 or not use it for pictures or CE5. All of the choice selections it allows makes the picture on the screen too wide and trains look like they are wide gauge!! Other wise, it is OK, just not useable for me. Larry |
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Post by calzephyr on Nov 23, 2015 6:59:47 GMT -8
Anybody know if you go with W10 and don't like it, is it reversible? (The answer to that question seems traditionally to have been "No," but I really have no idea.) Yes, it is reversible according to the options. I have not tried it yet but I do have copies of my original W7 so I could reinstall that disk and be on W7 immediately with the clone copy of my previous W7. If I do that, the system would have to upload and install all of the upgrades to W7 for the past year. I would rather do that compared to going back to W7 with their de-install or whatever it is called. My use of the W10 software is almost nil now since the display is not correct and my use of CE5 or Paint to modify pictures has stopped on that system. The pictures are correct when they are viewed on Flicker or any other system, but the editing process is impossible for me to see what the picture will really look like until it is viewed by a normal system display. This problem might be limited to the system that I installed W10 on and not applicable to any other Dell system. Larry |
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Post by calzephyr on Nov 23, 2015 7:04:33 GMT -8
Only reason I can think of is eventual end of support will come sooner for 7 than 10. I agree at some point support for W7 will end, but make sure you like W10 before you load it. My wife's laptop had W8 on it for some time and W10 looks and feels the same to me. I am not a fan of W8 or W10 for my use since they sort of make most functions automatic so to speak. I like W7 and XP prior to W7 since they offer the operator control of what is going on. At least that is the way I see it. Larry |
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Not familiar with Windows 8, so not sure what the result would be. Although everything I've read says Windows 10 gets those with Windows 8 back to a look and function like Windows 7.
