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Post by thelastspike on Apr 2, 2017 12:50:54 GMT -8
Heard this at my LHS but have not read anything official. Kinda makes sense I guess as they could use the SD40-2 trucks and maybe the frames. Should be a big seller in Canada.  Attachments:
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Apr 2, 2017 17:59:59 GMT -8
Curious, did you hear that Saturday?
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Post by bdhicks on Apr 2, 2017 19:28:27 GMT -8
Well, there are already more SD30C-ECOs in existence than SD40-2Fs ever produced, so it's not out of the question.
Of course, even without taking into account the timing, my experience with stuff people say in hobby shops is more miss than hit, so I'll refrain from celebrating until I get more concrete confirmation.
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Post by thelastspike on Apr 3, 2017 1:00:38 GMT -8
Curious, did you hear that Saturday? No, if it is true it should be announced at Super Train |
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Post by peoriaman on Apr 3, 2017 5:08:38 GMT -8
Should be a big seller in Canada. US modelers too. Those are common on the CP here in the states, and on the ex-IC&E. Or at least they were until EHH drove off all the business. |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Apr 3, 2017 5:25:23 GMT -8
They sure are a sharp looking unit, wonder if they're copyrighted.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Apr 4, 2017 4:03:39 GMT -8
Absolutely a stunning appearance and paint scheme. I'd get a couple just for fun. CP having announced the return of the Golden Rodent should produce a second paint variant.
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Post by hovehicle on Apr 6, 2017 16:10:45 GMT -8
thelastspike,
I hope this is confirmed by Bowser because that just might be my favorite locomotive on the rails today. Bowser does like CP so this would make sense; the golden beaver logo would make it even more attractive.
Vito L.
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Post by SD90 on Apr 9, 2017 18:13:38 GMT -8
Do any other railroads have these?
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 9, 2017 20:29:27 GMT -8
CP only, although the rear hood section looks like it's the same on the two NYS&W SD33ECO conversions (the hood end certainly is) so depending on how they tool these some other variations could be possible. NS's SD33ECO units are slightly different in the rear hood protrudes a bit and doesn't have the same sand filler location.
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Post by sd80mac on Apr 10, 2017 14:48:04 GMT -8
CP's units are pretty similar to CSX's SD40E3s rebuilt from SD40-2s earlier this year. They're both done by Progress Rail, CSX just calls theirs SD40E3s instead of SD30C-ECOs.  |
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Post by stevef45 on Apr 10, 2017 15:58:18 GMT -8
CP only, although the rear hood section looks like it's the same on the two NYS&W SD33ECO conversions (the hood end certainly is) so depending on how they tool these some other variations could be possible. NS's SD33ECO units are slightly different in the rear hood protrudes a bit and doesn't have the same sand filler location. NYSW's were also built using 2 former tunnel motors which are much longer then the regular SD40's or SD40-2's being used by CP, NS and now CSX. They would need a completely different frame and mold just for NYSW's version. Im pretty much done with building NYSW 3012 and will start stripping the shells needed for 3016 so i can get started on that one. |
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Apr 12, 2017 12:21:41 GMT -8
Are its SD33ECOs part of a larger NYS&W motive power strategy, or did it just want these two units rebuilt, and ECOs are what's on EMD's menu in terms of rebuilds nowadays?
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Post by stevef45 on Apr 12, 2017 17:28:16 GMT -8
Are its SD33ECOs part of a larger NYS&W motive power strategy, or did it just want these two units rebuilt, and ECOs are what's on EMD's menu in terms of rebuilds nowadays? No,NYSW's 2 Eco's were paid for by grants from the State of NJ and some kind of clean energy group. So they only had the 2 rebuilt from tunnel motors into the SD33ECO's. They look incredible in person. Progress rail was able to figure out a way to strengthen the cabs and nose on the original ones so they didn't have to get new cabs and nose assemblies in place of original.  |
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Post by thb401 on Apr 12, 2017 18:16:52 GMT -8
Nice looking Locomotives.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Apr 12, 2017 19:34:44 GMT -8
Are its SD33ECOs part of a larger NYS&W motive power strategy, or did it just want these two units rebuilt, and ECOs are what's on EMD's menu in terms of rebuilds nowadays? No,NYSW's 2 Eco's were paid for by grants from the State of NJ and some kind of clean energy group. So they only had the 2 rebuilt from tunnel motors into the SD33ECO's. They look incredible in person. Progress rail was able to figure out a way to strengthen the cabs and nose on the original ones so they didn't have to get new cabs and nose assemblies in place of original. Very interesting. Thanks! We'll have some standard cabs to look at for some time to come. And hopefully in Susie-Q paint. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 13, 2017 1:19:10 GMT -8
NYS&W's power strategy is odd at best, these, a couple unrebuilt 40-2 variants, five rebuilt in-kind SD60s with standard cabs, one remaining GP40 based in Utica, and for other four axle power they lease out of the Shared Assets pool a mix of CSX and NS units. These are mostly used on the Jersey side but at least one made it to Utica as the first move up that side since around 2006.
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Post by stevef45 on Apr 13, 2017 18:33:17 GMT -8
NYS&W's power strategy is odd at best, these, a couple unrebuilt 40-2 variants, five rebuilt in-kind SD60s with standard cabs, one remaining GP40 based in Utica, and for other four axle power they lease out of the Shared Assets pool a mix of CSX and NS units. These are mostly used on the Jersey side but at least one made it to Utica as the first move up that side since around 2006. The SD40-2's, 3018 and 3022 were essentially brand new locomotives when they got them back from rebuild. They were high nose units with no prime mover or anything else on the frame when sent to Dansville. The tunnel motors were also rebuilt back then. 3014 is the only one running. 3010 has some kind of prime mover damage. 1 of the SD45's is alive and running on the Binghamton side. The two eco units are primarily here in nj but do venture up to NY. The SD60's were all completely torn down and rebuilt up by Paducah shops. |
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Apr 13, 2017 19:50:00 GMT -8
When I saw they were getting SD60s, I was hoping Athearn or Walthers would do theirs in Susie-Q paint. Now I'm wondering if the rebuild brought about any serious external changes?
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Post by stevef45 on Apr 13, 2017 21:04:20 GMT -8
When I saw they were getting SD60s, I was hoping Athearn or Walthers would do theirs in Susie-Q paint. Now I'm wondering if the rebuild brought about any serious external changes? Nope, no external changes except they all got K5LLA horns. I started mine as soon as they announced they were getting the SD60's. 3 years later lol they are still not done. I keep stripping them since im not happy with the paint results. Im almost done reassembling them........again.  And then i'll also be painting my SD33ECO I built  |
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Apr 13, 2017 21:27:06 GMT -8
When I saw they were getting SD60s, I was hoping Athearn or Walthers would do theirs in Susie-Q paint. Now I'm wondering if the rebuild brought about any serious external changes? Nope, no external changes except they all got K5LLA horns. I started mine as soon as they announced they were getting the SD60's. 3 years later lol they are still not done. I keep stripping them since im not happy with the paint results. Im almost done reassembling them........again. And then i'll also be painting my SD33ECO I built Cool! Thanks for the look and the info! |
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Post by randy on Jan 21, 2022 14:10:00 GMT -8
Bowser just sent out an email with SKU's, road numbers, etc.
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Post by Tom on Jan 21, 2022 17:58:37 GMT -8
Bowser just sent out an email with SKU's, road numbers, etc. Tons of pics of the pre-production models on their site:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2022 6:42:14 GMT -8
Bowser likes Canadian units because they sell, and the Canadians also have been pretty happy with Bowser. When I say sell, that means, generally speaking, better than US prototypes.
Unfortunately, the Mexican MLW's do not sell enough to even get made at all. Preorders just were not there. Nowhere close.
It does also seem that anything Reading and Lehigh Valley sells well for them. Other roadnames it depends upon the particular paint scheme the unit wore. Not that many people seem to want the final, bare bones, PRR paint schemes that don't have lettering spelled out but instead have just a small keystone.
As my slobbering Pennsy freak friend Sean has noted, the Alco Century era of PRR was so short that many PRR modelers seem to just not get that excited about them...unless as pushers out of Altoona.
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 22, 2022 6:49:50 GMT -8
While these are way too new for me and far outside of my modeling focus, I've always really liked the ECO rebuilds. Hopefully these sell well enough to encourage Bowser and other MFGs to consider more rebuilds in the the future.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 22, 2022 10:15:57 GMT -8
Hasn't the CSX rebuilds with the ugly cab been done in HO?
Atlas did NS SD60E's in N and they sold well enough to get a second run.
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Post by stevef45 on Jan 22, 2022 12:35:30 GMT -8
Hasn't the CSX rebuilds with the ugly cab been done in HO Nope. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 22, 2022 12:39:56 GMT -8
Hasn't the CSX rebuilds with the ugly cab been done in HO Nope. Scale Trains did them, no? The so-called 'Spongebob Squarecab' units? also why did we revive a 5 year old thread? |
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Post by carrman on Jan 22, 2022 13:58:01 GMT -8
Scale Trains did them, no? The so-called 'Spongebob Squarecab' units? also why did we revive a 5 year old thread? Because it took 5 years for the official announcement and test shots to be done?  |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 23, 2022 5:17:25 GMT -8
Would have to ask the new member why he revived this thread instead of posting on the other one. This happens so often on all sorts of forums I can only guess they used a search engine to look for the topic and didn't pay attention to the posting dates.
Here's somebody's video review of the ST CSX SD40-2 rebuilds; they do exist. Start the debate about if the yellow is correct:
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