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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 24, 2019 5:53:10 GMT -8
Curious if any members have experience with any of the body shells from Pacific Northwest Resins.If so, how crisp are the details, etc.
TIA. Bob
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 24, 2019 5:59:26 GMT -8
Looks like Big Dawg Originals with yet another name.
-PO Box
-web based email
-no personally identifiable information
-closed group
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Post by wp8thsub on Aug 24, 2019 7:12:56 GMT -8
Another excuse for the Dawg to sell more of the same crappy resin shells. Stay away.
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Post by theengineshed on Aug 24, 2019 8:22:49 GMT -8
If you are thinking about the PNR Babyface shells with KV etches- the etches are excellent, way better than the shells. The shells have a "wavy" section in the roof that is difficult to correct without reworking the entire prime mover hatch. These roof sags will really stand out if you mount the KV ladder rails along the roof line. Crappy resin shells is an accurate description...
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Post by theengineshed on Aug 24, 2019 9:11:07 GMT -8
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Post by alcoc430 on Aug 24, 2019 9:14:19 GMT -8
They really depend who did the original master (there are several modelers on the site who are building the masters, he does some too but he also has to prep the model for casting) as well as the brand/ model that the master is based on. Several are based on brass models so the errors on those are usually carried over to resin unless it was corrected by the modeler making the master.
Its resin casted so it will never be as crisp and perfect as plastic injection.
As mentioned above kv models is making etchings for several of his models and he has started to include the grill openings in many of his shells to accept the etchings.
I have several such as the cnj double ender, nw5, rs1325, etc and I'm personally fine with them. He also casted the frames for these and reworked them to accept proto components thou the rs1325 maybe athearn components not sure.
He has a lot of photos of what he is selling so you can see if you like it or not.
These are still craftsman kits since you have cut windows glass, bend handrails, drill holes for grabs and details install lighting, paint etc
The biggest problem for me is putting the time to complete my projects, lol
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Post by 12bridge on Aug 24, 2019 13:29:41 GMT -8
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Post by cr9617 on Aug 24, 2019 14:29:37 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 24, 2019 15:28:10 GMT -8
I dunno. A little weathering, and it might just pass the 3 yard rule. Ed |
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Post by platec on Aug 24, 2019 17:00:30 GMT -8
Looks like the master was Cheddar cheese. |
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Post by craigz on Aug 24, 2019 17:03:31 GMT -8
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Post by vincep on Aug 24, 2019 20:43:12 GMT -8
BDO is Pacific Northwest Resins just a name change.
As For KV models Keith's etching is awesome.
PNR not so.
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Post by Judge Doom on Aug 24, 2019 22:59:40 GMT -8
BDO is Pacific Northwest Resins just a name change. As For KV models Keith's etching is awesome. PNR not so. Yes. Big Dawg Originals (aka Bruce "I talked to Facebook and they're gonna ban all my haters" Gavin) changed the name of his basement resin-casting knockoff shell business to Pacific Northwest Resins after the backlash encountered over him pirating the Anthracite Railroad Historical Society's Baldwin babyface shells a year or two back. The name is kind of ironic, as he posted about moving from Oregon to Texas or another southern state not too long ago. CMR Products also sells some of his knockoff shells under their Puttman Locomotive Works line. Same Dawg, different collar. |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Aug 25, 2019 0:59:27 GMT -8
As For KV models Keith's etching is awesome. Keith (Hapes) is Plano Model Products. Scott Lupia is KV Models (Keyser Valley Models). |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 25, 2019 4:06:19 GMT -8
BDO is Pacific Northwest Resins just a name change. ... Same Dawg, different collar. Can run but can't hide. Now where is Liam Neeson? |
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Post by nstophat on Aug 25, 2019 5:48:14 GMT -8
I bought a pair of PNR resin SD70ACC cab conversions not realizing that BDO had model to TX and changed names.
I have seen over on FB that someone on the NS Modelers forum has 3d printed a new cab, sub base and electrical cabinet. That maybe the way I go.
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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 25, 2019 6:52:12 GMT -8
Heh guys, thanks for all the feedback. Yep, from looking at the website I wondered if in fact it wasn't BDO reincarnated.  Bob |
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Post by Judge Doom on Aug 25, 2019 9:35:58 GMT -8
I have seen over on FB that someone on the NS Modelers forum has 3d printed a new cab, sub base and electrical cabinet. That maybe the way I go. Knowing the pacific Texan dawg, he might try to order one too... In order to change one or two parts, claim it as his own, and then cast dozens to sell at a lower price. Just like he did with the NS Crescent cabs when one modeler on the NS Facebook page had gone out of his way to design and start selling a 3D printed cab. It wasn't long before he noticed his Shapeways sales had dropped, and found out why and who was responsible... |
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Post by vincep on Aug 25, 2019 20:48:50 GMT -8
As For KV models Keith's etching is awesome. Keith (Hapes) is Plano Model Products. Scott Lupia is KV Models (Keyser Valley Models). . Colin totally my bad yes Scott is what i meant just ordered a bunch of parts from both gentlemen. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Aug 26, 2019 3:19:55 GMT -8
So given the Baldwin is a copy, where does that wave come from, did they screw up making the master?
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Post by scl1234 on Aug 26, 2019 9:06:54 GMT -8
Probably removed the shell from the mold before the mold had cooled completely.
Dimensional stability issues due to cooling (heat transfer) of the shell occurring at different rates.
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Post by Mark R. on Aug 26, 2019 9:10:49 GMT -8
Probably removed the shell from the mold before the mold had cooled completely. Dimensional stability issues due to cooling (heat transfer) of the shell occurring at different rates. These shells aren't injection molded .... Mark. |
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Post by simulatortrain on Aug 26, 2019 10:16:20 GMT -8
"I worked for Mattel and I know all about shrinkage. There is none." - the dawg
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure!
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Post by GP40P-2 on Aug 26, 2019 14:36:34 GMT -8
It would be nice if the Anthracite Railroad Historical Society would do their part and re-release their Baldwin's, thus screwing up Dawg's "market" for his pirated shells.
They have been saying that they would do another run for years now, but nothing ever comes of it. I would like one, but I am not going to be buying the Dawg's hot steaming pile.
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Post by lvrr325 on Aug 27, 2019 1:09:55 GMT -8
I tried to find out how to buy an AHRS SW8 dynamic brake conversion, I have now four engines I'd like to use them on, and got absolutely nowhere. It wasn't shown on their website.
The kicker is there were directions for one tucked in with one of the undec SW8s I bought. But no parts. So somewhere in that estate was one, apparently.
I almost would buy a Dawg copy if it wasn't for that it would probably have the same resin cure errors as those cabs.
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Post by dti406 on Aug 27, 2019 4:32:15 GMT -8
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Post by alcoc430 on Aug 27, 2019 4:36:15 GMT -8
I tried to find out how to buy an AHRS SW8 dynamic brake conversion, I have now four engines I'd like to use them on, and got absolutely nowhere. It wasn't shown on their website. The kicker is there were directions for one tucked in with one of the undec SW8s I bought. But no parts. So somewhere in that estate was one, apparently. I almost would buy a Dawg copy if it wasn't for that it would probably have the same resin cure errors as those cabs. That conversion kit is resin so hopefully it doesnt have the shrinkage issue too. Its a shame they dont rerun that kit |
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Post by nstophat on Aug 27, 2019 4:45:30 GMT -8
I tried to find out how to buy an AHRS SW8 dynamic brake conversion, I have now four engines I'd like to use them on, and got absolutely nowhere. It wasn't shown on their website. The kicker is there were directions for one tucked in with one of the undec SW8s I bought. But no parts. So somewhere in that estate was one, apparently. I almost would buy a Dawg copy if it wasn't for that it would probably have the same resin cure errors as those cabs. That conversion kit is resin so hopefully it doesnt have the shrinkage issue too. Its a shame they dont rerun that kit Or, maybe have Ryan Harris make a 3d Shapeways kit.... |
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Post by 12bridge on Aug 27, 2019 6:24:28 GMT -8
People have been after ARHS to re-run those resin kits of both the Baldwins and the LV conversion kits for years. I am glad I stocked up on them.
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Post by jd on Aug 27, 2019 10:34:41 GMT -8
As far as the slope from the roof to the cab on the babyface units, the CNJ had both styles, the gradual slope and the abrupt drop. Right now I forget which road numbers had which style.
-JD
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