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Post by upcsx on Aug 4, 2020 11:53:35 GMT -8
In North Carolina i have to pay a high tax so i did not get any so if Lombard's gets them i will get some where i do not have to pay tax.
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Post by edgecrusher on Aug 4, 2020 12:05:57 GMT -8
In North Carolina i have to pay a high tax so i did not get any so if Lombard's gets them i will get some where i do not have to pay tax. Lombard's was just advertising them on Facebook today, so you should be able to order them Friday. |
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Post by csxt8400 on Aug 4, 2020 12:28:14 GMT -8
I had 12 sent to Minnesota. 25 rocks.
I hope most people realize how amazing this car is for the price, especially when bought in bulk. At 12 cars, they were 43.95. I just paid 48 bucks or so for a lousy Walthers coil car that is rehashed from an ancient kit. What more can we ask for? Tangent delivers.
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Post by upcsx on Aug 4, 2020 12:47:14 GMT -8
edgecrusher,Thanks.
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Post by thebessemerkid on Aug 4, 2020 12:55:40 GMT -8
I had 12 sent to Minnesota. 25 rocks. I hope most people realize how amazing this car is for the price, especially when bought in bulk. At 12 cars, they were 43.95. I just paid 48 bucks or so for a lousy Walthers coil car that is rehashed from an ancient kit. What more can we ask for? Tangent delivers. The quantity discounts are an enormous incentive. Really cannot overstate it. |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 4, 2020 13:08:50 GMT -8
In North Carolina i have to pay a high tax so i did not get any so if Lombard's gets them i will get some where i do not have to pay tax. How much tax would there be in a couple of 86' box cars? The shipping within state must be under $8? Lombards shipping $13.95 flat may end up costing you just as much vs. ordering direct with lower shipping in-state, depending on how many you order. |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 4, 2020 13:12:56 GMT -8
I had 12 sent to Minnesota. 25 rocks. I hope most people realize how amazing this car is for the price, especially when bought in bulk. At 12 cars, they were 43.95. I just paid 48 bucks or so for a lousy Walthers coil car that is rehashed from an ancient kit. What more can we ask for? Tangent delivers. The quantity discounts are an enormous incentive. Really cannot overstate it. Very true, it does help a lot on the unit price to order in 6's or 12's. I didn't have $528 plus shipping to drop on Tangent right now and I don't need very many of the 86' cars for a home layout. |
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Post by gevohogger on Aug 4, 2020 13:29:09 GMT -8
The quantity discounts are an enormous incentive. Really cannot overstate it. Very true, it does help a lot on the unit price to order in 6's or 12's. I didn't have $528 plus shipping to drop on Tangent right now and I don't need very many of the 86' cars for a home layout. Sell a kidney, or something, if you have to. These cars are a must-have if you model 1970s Rio Grande. |
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Post by thebessemerkid on Aug 4, 2020 13:36:58 GMT -8
Very true, it does help a lot on the unit price to order in 6's or 12's. I didn't have $528 plus shipping to drop on Tangent right now and I don't need very many of the 86' cars for a home layout. Sell a kidney, or something, if you have to. These cars are a must-have if you model 1970s Rio Grande. Someone needs to photoshop a Greenville 86' instead of the cash...  kidneykidney.com/images/trans.jpgWe need to start rating cars from 1 to 5 kidneys. |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 4, 2020 13:43:21 GMT -8
Sell a kidney, or something, if you have to. These cars are a must-have if you model 1970s Rio Grande. Yah! For sure, just how many for a home layout ... I've got two coming that I've confirmed good for D&RGW auto parts trains: DT&I and Southern. I'm pretty sure SP were also used so am reaching out to one of my vendors for one or two when they get them in-stock. Beyond that will see what Tangent offers in the next run. I've also got a mix of Walthers Pullman Standard 86' box cars. Yeah, not as good as Tangent, but needed some P-S for a prototypical mix, including PC, DT&I green, early CR can-opener, MILW and PRR and NYC as well. All are 4 door (2 doors per side) as used on the Ford FAST. Now if we could just get some Thralls! |
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Post by upcsx on Aug 4, 2020 13:47:04 GMT -8
If i can get out of paying NC tax i will.
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Aug 4, 2020 13:50:28 GMT -8
Well the 86' box cars I ordered will have good company along side the Scale Trains Auto Racks arriving next week...this hobby is getting very expensive.
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Post by riogrande on Aug 4, 2020 14:14:40 GMT -8
If i can get out of paying NC tax i will. So which is higher? Ordering from Lombards or direct by the math? |
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Post by thebessemerkid on Aug 4, 2020 14:23:44 GMT -8
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Post by riogrande on Aug 4, 2020 14:37:00 GMT -8
Yes, since earlier today the last number of DT&I went out of stock. SP, Southern DT&I all sold-out. The Conrail 2/4 numbers sold out. The Canadian Pacific and NYC seem to be slow sellers by comparison.
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Post by upcsx on Aug 4, 2020 15:27:25 GMT -8
Jim'Dont know right away but if remember the tax and shipping will be more.
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Post by bnsftall on Aug 4, 2020 15:46:09 GMT -8
Sell a kidney, or something, if you have to. These cars are a must-have if you model 1970s Rio Grande. Yah! For sure, just how many for a home layout ... I've got two coming that I've confirmed good for D&RGW auto parts trains: DT&I and Southern. I'm pretty sure SP were also used so am reaching out to one of my vendors for one or two when they get them in-stock. Beyond that will see what Tangent offers in the next run. I've also got a mix of Walthers Pullman Standard 86' box cars. Yeah, not as good as Tangent, but needed some P-S for a prototypical mix, including PC, DT&I green, early CR can-opener, MILW and PRR and NYC as well. All are 4 door (2 doors per side) as used on the Ford FAST. Now if we could just get some Thralls! They don't have to all be on the layout at once Jim! Like the prototype, have a decent sized pool (more than enough for your planned train) and rotate them in, say monthly. It'll keep your Ford FAST looking fresh. dt |
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Post by bnsftall on Aug 4, 2020 16:01:19 GMT -8
I had 12 sent to Minnesota. 25 rocks. I hope most people realize how amazing this car is for the price, especially when bought in bulk. At 12 cars, they were 43.95. I just paid 48 bucks or so for a lousy Walthers coil car that is rehashed from an ancient kit. What more can we ask for? Tangent delivers. Absolutely correct. I hope other manufacturers take note that the size of the car does't automatically justify a higher price point. dt |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 4, 2020 16:35:48 GMT -8
They don't have to all be on the layout at once Jim! Like the prototype, have a decent sized pool (more than enough for your planned train) and rotate them in, say monthly. It'll keep your Ford FAST looking fresh. dt I can't really argue with that logic! |
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Post by simulatortrain on Aug 4, 2020 17:27:37 GMT -8
If anyone wants to unload some Walthers cars, there are a few I'm looking for. Gotta have some PS cars along with the Greenvilles!
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Post by stevewagner on Aug 4, 2020 17:52:19 GMT -8
I think the last time I made a model railroad purchase specifically to avoid tax was in the summer of 1966, when I turned twenty years old. That was the only time I've been outside of North America. Following my sophomore year at Oberlin College, I participated in its summer German language program, based in Vienna. There I noticed with surprise that Austrian-made U.S. freight cars cost more there than they did in the USA, where AHM imported and sold them. Before the whole group spent a weekend in Munich I wrote a hobby shop there, in German, asking about buying two or three structure kits made in Germany while there, to avoid the import duty I'd have to pay if I bought them in Austria. We made a deal. Once back in Austria, I mailed them to Pennsylvania as a gift (to myself) to avoid U.S. customs duties. To do that I had to write GIFT on the package. However, in German that word means "poison", so I added, in parentheses, Geschenck, which is the German for "gift" or "present". That worked. I was on a very tight budget, allowing myself one small chocolate bar with hazelnuts a week and eating raw green beans and a roll for supper at least one night a week!
On the way to Vienna the group traveled together for a week or so from the airport in Brussels. One of our stops for a night or two was in the famous medieval walled town of Rothenburg ob der Tauber for two nights, I think. I didn't join the others on a side trip from there to Wuerzburg to see the magnificent palace of the archbishop who'd previously ruled that place. (We'd already visited other palaces.) Instead I took a long walk in the countryside to the small village where the Preiser firm was located. The people there were very friendly but were astounded that I bought only two sets of their HO figures: one of milk cows, the other a small Bavarian band. I still have those and later bought many others. Preiser still does its design work in Germany, but for many years now its figures have been painted in Mauritius, an island in the Indian Ocean.
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Post by csxt8400 on Aug 4, 2020 18:24:13 GMT -8
It'll keep your Ford FAST looking fresh. dt This is and has been my logic for quite some time. It gets expensive but I really really want to avoid the "tell tale" signs of a model railroad. I would like to have an abundance of common cars so that when you see a few, you don't know for sure which ones they are and where they are going. As for locomotives, it would get ridiculous to see a bunch of one of a kinds parading around, so you have to water things down so that doesn't happen. I follow that logic with rolling stock as much as I can. Of course, that is also a very slick way to justify buying four or five of an item that maybe you only need two of. A fool and his money, they say. |
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Post by PennCentral on Aug 5, 2020 4:36:34 GMT -8
13 cars to Indiana - $18.62 for Priority Mail. Jason C No complaints here, Indiana Jeeze, I hope you've got a lot of mainline.  At the moment, NO mainline. NO branchline. NO layout. No club membership. At the moment anyway..... Shortly I'll be starting work on a mid-70's era generic western Ohio-ish layout where I can run Penn Central, DT&I, and whatever else I like. Maybe some N&W. Maybe some B&O/C&O first year or two Chessie. Maybe even Rock Island on occasion but probably NOT the bankrupt blue. Sometimes it might be early-Conrail. Other times it might move back to pre-Penn Central Cigar Band NYC and plan keystone Pennsy. It's not going to be a massive double decker with 10+ operators required. Initially it's going to be a one town scene 12'-20' long with a junction of two secondary mainlines crossing and a crap ton of staging so I can kick back and railfan really long trains. There'll also be some industries and interchange tracks so I'll be able to run a local and switch the elevator and feed mill, maybe a couple of small factories and a team track. But most often, I'll probably sit there and play tower operator. Once that layout is up and running, I'll be starting a second layout in the other half of the basement. Also a one town deal with more staging than 'layout'. That one is going to be a D&H layout in Upstate NY based on my hometown. Not tiny layouts but limited and focused in scope. The Western Ohio one might be built as Free-Mo compliant modules so it can go 'on the road' once or twice a year. Jason C Long trains, Indiana |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 5, 2020 5:00:52 GMT -8
Initially it's going to be a one town scene 12'-20' long with a junction of two secondary mainlines crossing and a crap ton of staging so I can kick back and railfan really long trains. There'll also be some industries and interchange tracks so I'll be able to run a local and switch the elevator and feed mill, maybe a couple of small factories and a team track. But most often, I'll probably sit there and play tower operator. Jason C Long trains, Indiana The layout I am working on I am trying to squeeze in as much staging as possible. Space is somewhat limited so it won't be a crap-ton of staging. What I have drawn in (center-lines) is 11 tracks total ranging from around 15 feet to 26 feet long, and possibly a couple additional holding tracks in staging to hold as much rolling stock on the rails as possible. My trains will mostly be limited to the 21 foot sidings with an occasional longer train. |
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Post by stevewagner on Aug 5, 2020 5:01:24 GMT -8
Jason C, if I may, which place in upstate New York is your hometown? I'm writing as a D&H fan who has never lived in New York State and is usually able to get out there only two or three times a year.
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Post by gevohogger on Aug 5, 2020 5:25:58 GMT -8
.... eating raw green beans and a roll for supper at least one night a week! Have you ever watched "Rick Steve's Europe"? That is how they eat every day. |
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Post by sd80mac on Aug 5, 2020 5:28:38 GMT -8
Tangent has developed a great model that will most definitely sell out within 48 - 60 hours since being announced. No pre-announcement, teasers or riddles. Just an accurate replica that has been in demand for quite some time. Thank you Tangent! Very impressive and many applause. Matt Parker I used to really hate that they did things that way, but now, I actually prefer it! No pre-delivery hype, no anticipation, no games. Here it is, here's what they cost, and you can have it next week. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 5, 2020 6:19:19 GMT -8
The Western Ohio one might be built as Free-Mo compliant modules so it can go 'on the road' once or twice a year. I'm hoping to finish out my giant test track loop by (someday) sliding in a Free-mo module. Not only do I get to use the module year-round, but it also won't be taking up space in the garage. I'm pretty sure which one of us will be done sooner. Ed |
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Post by thebessemerkid on Aug 5, 2020 6:35:59 GMT -8
Jeeze, I hope you've got a lot of mainline. At the moment, NO mainline. NO branchline. NO layout. No club membership. At the moment anyway..... Shortly I'll be starting work on a mid-70's era generic western Ohio-ish layout where I can run Penn Central, DT&I, and whatever else I like. Maybe some N&W. Maybe some B&O/C&O first year or two Chessie. Maybe even Rock Island on occasion but probably NOT the bankrupt blue. Sometimes it might be early-Conrail. Other times it might move back to pre-Penn Central Cigar Band NYC and plan keystone Pennsy. It's not going to be a massive double decker with 10+ operators required. Initially it's going to be a one town scene 12'-20' long with a junction of two secondary mainlines crossing and a crap ton of staging so I can kick back and railfan really long trains. There'll also be some industries and interchange tracks so I'll be able to run a local and switch the elevator and feed mill, maybe a couple of small factories and a team track. But most often, I'll probably sit there and play tower operator. Once that layout is up and running, I'll be starting a second layout in the other half of the basement. Also a one town deal with more staging than 'layout'. That one is going to be a D&H layout in Upstate NY based on my hometown. Not tiny layouts but limited and focused in scope. The Western Ohio one might be built as Free-Mo compliant modules so it can go 'on the road' once or twice a year. Jason C Long trains, Indiana Western Ohio isn't complete without an Erie Lackawanna pulled by some Genesis SDP45 / SD45-2's (we still need a good E-L caboose!) PC / early Conrail lets you add in RDG, CNJ, LV etc while Chessie adds in WM. Modeling the 60's & 70's gets expensive, because you could see anything, anywhere, at least in the NE / Midwest. It was glorious.  |
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Post by csxt8400 on Aug 5, 2020 7:20:08 GMT -8
Can't model the EL west end without some Athearn Genesis Milwaukee F's, either, before they got cut off at Marion.
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