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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 11, 2022 14:28:52 GMT -8
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Post by cp6027 on Feb 11, 2022 15:13:54 GMT -8
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 11, 2022 16:23:08 GMT -8
me too!  |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 11, 2022 16:31:07 GMT -8
Yeah, it's pretty hard to get worked up about still another 40' box car. Even if there was 6500 of them, and they were spread all over the country for maybe 30 years (1950-1980). Maybe even Canada? Nahhhhh.
Wonder why Rapido even bothers.
Ed
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 11, 2022 16:47:12 GMT -8
Yeah, it's pretty hard to get worked up about still another 40' box car. Even if there was 6500 of them, and they were spread all over the country for maybe 30 years (1950-1980). Maybe even Canada? Nahhhhh. Wonder why Rapido even bothers. Ed yeah, because those bulkheads weren't built by the thousands or had 30-40 year careers either...  |
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Post by csxt8400 on Feb 11, 2022 16:49:38 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 11, 2022 17:42:05 GMT -8
I'm sure when Rapido or someone produces some car numbers for these models, and I can research them, that I will find a need for a few. It'll be fun learning about them, and seeing if they meandered much in my area.
But OMJ, I already know that I'm gonna need a bunch of the UP cars.
I see that Rapido is offering 36 of these in the as-delivered scheme. For one railroad.
Ed
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Post by wagnersteve on Feb 11, 2022 18:18:32 GMT -8
February 11, 2022
about 9:13 p.m., EST
As of a few minutes ago Rapido has emailed its latest Newsletter to those of us who have signed up to receive it. No less than 81 pages. The Newsletter itself has renderings of the paint schemes for the newly announced UP 40' boxcars and Canadian 60' bulkhead flat cars, but the announcements that I see when I follow the links in the Newsletter to them, like those posted on this forum, don't yet have pictures. Also shown are unlettered piggyback trailers. Deadline for preordering the decorated piggyback trailers, at least, and also the second run of RS-11's is announced as March 15.
I can't add more or start printing parts of the Newsletter now; I need to get back to my wife.
Steve Wagner
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 11, 2022 18:26:53 GMT -8
yeah, because those bulkheads weren't built by the thousands or had 30-40 year careers either... Rapido says they were built in the hundreds: 500 + 400 + 500 + 74 + 20 = 1494. So you got that right. But they DID have that 30-40 year career. So you made an ooops there. As I new see the BNSF lettering on these cars, I am indeed drawn like a moth to a flame. Which of course was already happening with BC hot-looking cars! My car count on these will certainly be going up! Ed PS: It SURELY is irritating that Rapido does its six-pack approach. My choice is to buy either 6 or 1 of these cars. Which means if I wanted 2, Rapido has lost a sale. Because of this approach, Rapido has sold a fair number fewer cars to me than if they'd used a more customer friendly system. And please don't tell me that if I bugged a lot of my friends we could split a pack. That ISN'T my job, nor is it the job of my friends. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 11, 2022 18:42:42 GMT -8
Rapido says they were built in the hundreds: 500 + 400 + 500 + 74 + 20 = 1494. So you got that right. But they DID have that 30-40 year career. So you made an ooops there. That was sarcasm, it appears I failed to fully convey it. oooops... I am fully aware of the longeivity of these cars, which was supposed to be my point. I agree about the six packs, although I have ordered multiple 'single cars' on several occasions and I've never gotten the same number of something twice.... Maybe I'm just lucky? |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 11, 2022 20:35:31 GMT -8
I figured it was sarcasm, which is why I was surprised that there were not "thousands" of these cars, but they DID last awhile. I think when you try sarcasm, you have to be internally consistent. If you don't, it weakens your point.
I am glad that you have been successful in obtaining non-repeating road numbers.
What is my recourse if I order 5, and they aren't all different? Can I ASSUME they will be different?
How about if Rapido came up with a system that would assure us that that would not happen? Sort of how everyone else does it, for example (except BLI). When I order Moloco, for example, I can order the exact car numbers I want. That seems to be beyond the abilities of Rapido.
Ed
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Post by csxt8400 on Feb 11, 2022 22:54:18 GMT -8
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Post by bnsf971 on Feb 12, 2022 4:49:10 GMT -8
I wonder if Rapido would be receptive to a compromise. 3-packs instead of 6-packs. That way, those of us with smaller layouts (and budgets) could more easily participate in the fun.
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Post by wagnersteve on Feb 12, 2022 5:14:30 GMT -8
The problem is not just with Rapido but with some dealers who apparently prefer to sell freight cars in six-packs rather than as single cars. So far I've generally been able to get just one car when I want one, not without some considerable shopping around.
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Feb 12, 2022 5:35:13 GMT -8
Back to the posted topic - I am happy to see the UP 40’ box car especially the “Be Specific” logo. The bulkhead is blah - especially when the prototype is 66’ not 62’…
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 12, 2022 5:52:53 GMT -8
The bulkhead is blah - especially when the prototype is 66’ not 62’… you do realize they came in both lengths, right? |
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Post by unittrain on Feb 12, 2022 5:58:57 GMT -8
I've ordered multiple single cars from them and always get different road numbers so far, but a yeah a 6 pack of cars is usually a bit too much unless it's coal cars or a tank car, I also like to keep my total car fleet to no more than about 900 to 1000 cars as tye more you have the more that never see the light of day on the tracks, they get buried in one of the 3 dozen totes in storage. I had 2000 N scale cars or so and guess what in the 20 years of collecting the layout was never finished and I ran maybe dozen trains. I'm changing that with HO as my layout is almost finished and I'm going to enjoy operating the layout and doing detailed scenery and structures. I did that with N but it was more a photo diaroma than an operating layout. I'm still trying to sell all the N but with ebay the way it is I don't know may have to try another way.
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Feb 12, 2022 5:58:58 GMT -8
You do realize they are doing (hopefully) the 66’ and Dan said it’s a typo. Lots of 62’ typos. The bulkhead is blah - especially when the prototype is 66’ not 62’… you do realize they came in both lengths, right? |
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Post by cp6027 on Feb 12, 2022 7:38:14 GMT -8
Yeah, it's pretty hard to get worked up about still another 40' box car. Even if there was 6500 of them, and they were spread all over the country for maybe 30 years (1950-1980). Maybe even Canada? Nahhhhh. Wonder why Rapido even bothers. Ed Sorry, didn't mean to slight the UP boxcar; happy for those who can use it! Since I doubt the UP box was in grain service on the Canadian prairies in 1992, the bulkhead flat is of more interest to me personally. I'm not crazy about the new Rapido website and the lack of roadnumber information on the freight car pages. Fortunately the numbers are listed in the catalog PDFs liked in their email announcement. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 12, 2022 8:52:57 GMT -8
40' boxcars "just don't get no respect".
But until maybe 1965 or so, they sure filled out most of the average train (except coal or iron ore). Like Superliners, I'm not in love with them; they're just necessary to recreate certain times and places.
And hence can be quite useful.
Ed
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 12, 2022 9:47:53 GMT -8
I figured it was sarcasm, which is why I was surprised that there were not "thousands" of these cars, but they DID last awhile. I think when you try sarcasm, you have to be internally consistent. If you don't, it weakens your point. I am glad that you have been successful in obtaining non-repeating road numbers. What is my recourse if I order 5, and they aren't all different? Can I ASSUME they will be different? How about if Rapido came up with a system that would assure us that that would not happen? Sort of how everyone else does it, for example (except BLI). When I order Moloco, for example, I can order the exact car numbers I want. That seems to be beyond the abilities of Rapido. Ed If you bought five you may as well buy six and sell the one you don't want, or get with somebody else and split the six pack, or find a dealer willing to split the six pack, which is what Rapido seems to want dealers to do. The flatcars are too new for me but I think they'll be popular. The UP boxcar is borderline, they were pretty close to the end of their lifespan. My guess is they will sell plenty for guys to run behind their Big Boys though. |
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Post by schroed2 on Feb 12, 2022 11:30:54 GMT -8
i will have to check whether there any pictures of the eary lettering in my archive for the 1969 period...otherwise, one each of the repaints will have to do for me...
the flatcars are too new, but I know somebody who needs a lot of them...
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 12, 2022 14:09:52 GMT -8
If you bought five you may as well buy six and sell the one you don't want, or get with somebody else and split the six pack, or find a dealer willing to split the six pack, which is what Rapido seems to want dealers to do. And it's MY job to do this, because Rapido doesn't feel like it. As opposed to Moloco or Tangent, where I can order specific numbers. Of course, Rapido offers a pretty decent discount if you buy in quantity--the bulk pack. Hold it now kids, here it comes: $0.00. And that's American dollars, not Canadian. And the UP boxcars will look mighty nice behind turbines, also. Maybe even a brace of C-855's! Ed |
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Post by lars on Feb 12, 2022 20:18:17 GMT -8
I’m surprised that we’re on page two and no one has complained about this being a $65 boxcar. I’m not going to complain, but I’m sure as hell not going to spend $65 on a boxcar, either.
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Post by schroed2 on Feb 12, 2022 20:36:56 GMT -8
I’m surprised that we’re on page two and no one has complained about this being a $65 boxcar. I’m not going to complain, but I’m sure as hell not going to spend $65 on a boxcar, either. well, the announced MSRP is us $55 or cdn $65... |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 12, 2022 21:12:09 GMT -8
I look forward to lars's response.
Ed
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 12, 2022 21:24:06 GMT -8
When they do hit $65 all those old Athearn blue box kits that guys can only get about $5 a shot for are going to start to look much more attractive.
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Post by schroed2 on Feb 13, 2022 0:10:53 GMT -8
When they do hit $65 all those old Athearn blue box kits that guys can only get about $5 a shot for are going to start to look much more attractive. only if price is the major criteria (and I do not think that Rapido or Tangent or Moloco aim for that part of the market) I am not a "Rapido fanboy" (I cancelled 8 out of 9 locomotive pre-orders before the deadline), but their freightcars are worth their money for me if they fit my time period. I can fix small things wirhout writing about it... in this case, the only real alternative are some resin kits (did Speedwitch do them? Sunshine did only the earlier versions, but anyway difficult to get in the US, very difficult outside of it) or modifying some BL/Atlas boxcars w Archer ACR rivets and other parts... |
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Post by lars on Feb 13, 2022 4:43:33 GMT -8
I’m surprised that we’re on page two and no one has complained about this being a $65 boxcar. I’m not going to complain, but I’m sure as hell not going to spend $65 on a boxcar, either. well, the announced MSRP is us $55 or cdn $65... I must be getting the ARF discount rate... 
But that discount for buying a case of 6 is a bit tempting  |
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Post by lars on Feb 13, 2022 5:16:58 GMT -8
So before the "that's not the street price" people jump in, yea I guess they'll be in the $52-55 range. On the other hand they're about 30% higher (MSRP) than the X72 and B100 announced about a year and half ago (about 24% more with the surcharge on them) and about 18% more than the B50 announced in November. Just for fun I found the US CPI change by sector for 2021 www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2022/consumer-price-index-2021-in-review.htm Although the Bureau of Labor Statistics apparently doesn't feel that model trains doesn't warrant its own price sector. Edit: I am willing to believe that the price above is an error and that they really are $55 US, which is a bit more in-line with their prior products. I’ve been passing more than biting on $55 MSRP rolling stock, especially the lowly boxcar. |
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