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Post by cera2254 on Apr 22, 2023 16:29:12 GMT -8
Just wanted to post about the new run of Heartland Hobby Rapido E Units. Was able to look at a couple of Milwaukee units that a friend of mine purchased and they did fix the extra porthole ridge.
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Post by cpr4200 on Apr 22, 2023 18:04:46 GMT -8
Was able to look at a couple of Milwaukee units that a friend of mine purchased and they did fix the extra porthole ridge. Nice to know. I hesitated to buy a CP because I thought they might correct some issues, including the portholes, in a later run, but there's no guarantee there'll be a later run. If they run the CP's again with corrections, I'll probably buy one. |
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Post by elsdp45 on Apr 23, 2023 7:39:52 GMT -8
Was there any resolution to the bowed grills toward the rear of the unit? Did Rapido have a fix for them? Or did someone discover a good way to get them to set flat?
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Post by elfan on Apr 25, 2023 18:50:13 GMT -8
I received my two Erie units, part of the Heartland Hobbies special production, and as of now there is no issue with the grills…straight and flat. I guess these can be considered a third run, so maybe they addressed some of the issues that came to light after the first run appeared. As mentioned above, the porthole issue being one. The only issue I had was they did not run even remotely close in either speed or acceleration/deceleration rates, which I found quite odd considering they are both from the same run with factory installed ESU decoders. A little tweaking of the speed table at least got them in the same ballpark, close enough to allow MUing. When I get time, I’ll speed match them completely.
Tom
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Post by cemr5396 on Apr 25, 2023 19:27:39 GMT -8
If they haven't fixed the nose/headlight, that would still be a non starter for me - if I was even interested in one in the first place.
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Post by jonklein611 on Apr 26, 2023 4:32:56 GMT -8
I received my two Erie units, part of the Heartland Hobbies special production, and as of now there is no issue with the grills…straight and flat. I guess these can be considered a third run, so maybe they addressed some of the issues that came to light after the first run appeared. As mentioned above, the porthole issue being one. The only issue I had was they did not run even remotely close in either speed or acceleration/deceleration rates, which I found quite odd considering they are both from the same run with factory installed ESU decoders. A little tweaking of the speed table at least got them in the same ballpark, close enough to allow MUing. When I get time, I’ll speed match them completely. Tom ESU has had quite a few bad decoders in their pipeline as well. |
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Post by Baikal on Apr 26, 2023 7:03:13 GMT -8
I received my two Erie units, part of the Heartland Hobbies special production, and as of now there is no issue with the grills…straight and flat. I guess these can be considered a third run, so maybe they addressed some of the issues that came to light after the first run appeared. As mentioned above, the porthole issue being one. The only issue I had was they did not run even remotely close in either speed or acceleration/deceleration rates, which I found quite odd considering they are both from the same run with factory installed ESU decoders. A little tweaking of the speed table at least got them in the same ballpark, close enough to allow MUing. When I get time, I’ll speed match them completely. Tom
Are there any photos of the "fixed" porthole versions? Especially one next to a bad original model for comparison?
I saw a UP unit in a current Rapido ad- the porthole frame still looked oversized. Could have been an earlier version or...
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Post by Baikal on Apr 26, 2023 7:28:27 GMT -8
If they haven't fixed the nose/headlight, that would still be a non starter for me - if I was even interested in one in the first place.
Photos or it didn't happen.
Trust but verify.
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Post by ambluco on Apr 26, 2023 8:20:06 GMT -8
I received my two Erie units, part of the Heartland Hobbies special production, and as of now there is no issue with the grills…straight and flat. I guess these can be considered a third run, so maybe they addressed some of the issues that came to light after the first run appeared. As mentioned above, the porthole issue being one. The only issue I had was they did not run even remotely close in either speed or acceleration/deceleration rates, which I found quite odd considering they are both from the same run with factory installed ESU decoders. A little tweaking of the speed table at least got them in the same ballpark, close enough to allow MUing. When I get time, I’ll speed match them completely. Tom Are there any photos of the "fixed" porthole versions? Especially one next to a bad original model for comparison? I saw a UP unit in a current Rapido ad- the porthole frame still looked oversized. Could have been an earlier version or...
UP is an earlier version. |
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Post by Baikal on Apr 26, 2023 8:23:10 GMT -8
Are there any photos of the "fixed" porthole versions? Especially one next to a bad original model for comparison? I saw a UP unit in a current Rapido ad- the porthole frame still looked oversized. Could have been an earlier version or...
UP is an earlier version.
We await photos of the fixed version.
Bueller? Bueller?
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Post by carrman on Apr 26, 2023 20:33:12 GMT -8
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Post by jonklein611 on Apr 27, 2023 4:36:07 GMT -8
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Post by markfj on Apr 27, 2023 5:50:51 GMT -8
I know this is beating a dead horse, but that image really highlights the inaccurate curvature of the nose around the headlight. For a while I thought the headlight housing was too long, but now I think it is correct and the problem is that the nose lacks the proper shape around the headlight. Glad they fixed the porthole window issue. Now onto the nose please.
Thanks, Mark
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Post by edgecrusher on Apr 27, 2023 6:06:41 GMT -8
I know this is beating a dead horse, but that image really highlights the inaccurate curvature of the nose around the headlight. For a while I thought the headlight housing was too long, but now I think it is correct and the problem is that the nose lacks the proper shape around the headlight. Glad they fixed the porthole window issue. Now onto the nose please. Thanks, Mark Maybe they can address the sand fillers and the fuel tank while they're at it too. |
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Post by maven on Apr 27, 2023 6:33:47 GMT -8
Why are the windshields asymmetrical? It looks like its raising an eyebrow.
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Post by jonklein611 on Apr 27, 2023 6:45:11 GMT -8
Why are the windshields asymmetrical? It looks like its raising an eyebrow. I'm assuming it's an artifact of the wide angle lens used to take the photo. |
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Post by maven on Apr 27, 2023 6:48:51 GMT -8
I doubt it. Look where the inside top corners fall on the brow. The fireman’s side is clearly shorter in height.
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Post by gevohogger on Apr 27, 2023 7:41:04 GMT -8
I am hoping that is an optical illusion. I scroll back and don't really see any clear views from that angle so it is hard to tell. If it is indeed as you're saying that is even more glaring than the headlight issue (which itself I think depends on what paint scheme it is on).
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Post by maven on Apr 27, 2023 7:51:58 GMT -8
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Post by locochris on Apr 27, 2023 12:01:52 GMT -8
Hopefully they keep addressing these remaining issues for the E8 w/HEP run. Wish they wouldn't keep quiet about it though, it's like they are afraid to admit they messed up earlier.
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Post by jonklein611 on Apr 27, 2023 12:06:40 GMT -8
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Post by ictom on Apr 28, 2023 11:16:36 GMT -8
Hopefully they keep addressing these remaining issues for the E8 w/HEP run. Wish they wouldn't keep quiet about it though, it's like they are afraid to admit they messed up earlier. I hate to say it, but admitting any error that they don't intend to fix or compensate for units already out there - puts them on legal record for the fault. That's difficult to come back from unless they can afford the hit. Smaller things, like the Southern Railway herald reversal, they admit to and freely supply the remedy. They quickly sent me a replacement Farr grill, for instance. I'm happy to have my IC E8s, but it's frustrating that they've fixed the portholes now. One can still debate the nose and headlight, but it's 50-50 in my view. The recent question on the windshields is just looking for trouble that's not there, IMHO. |
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Post by maven on Apr 28, 2023 13:13:55 GMT -8
The recent question on the windshields is just looking for trouble that's not there, IMHO. Look again at that 4316. The gasket recess on the engineer’s window intrudes further out on the fillet where the nose meets the window surround, and the window edge is closer to the center line than the fireman’s window is. You can see this in relation to the crease in the center post. The crease lines up with the center of the headlight, so it certainly appears the window is wider on that side (engineer’s window). |
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Post by elsdp45 on Apr 28, 2023 15:19:45 GMT -8
The locomotive is not centered in the picture. You can see the rear of the unit trails off to the right. You cannot make a proper comparison of left and right sides due to the shift in perspective. A better picture from directly in front is required.
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Post by maven on Apr 28, 2023 15:23:27 GMT -8
LOL. Live in denial all you want.
Overland hobbies has a three-quarter shot of the Southern unit from the opposite side and the ENG side window still looks to not be cut consistently with the firemans side. Three different views, three different angles, three different paint schemes, and they all show the ENG side windshield to be cut a little differently than the firemans side.
What’s the excuse now?
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Post by elsdp45 on Apr 28, 2023 15:54:58 GMT -8
I wasn't making an excuse. I have pointed out numerous other problems with the engines. Just a centered picture with the unit perpendicular. This way you can directly compare the left side to the right side. I also agree that the front windows look off. The engineer's side looks larger than the fireman's.
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Post by maven on Apr 28, 2023 15:58:54 GMT -8
looking further into it, The overhead shot of the UP unit on page 3 of this thread even shows it. The gasket recess is not cut on the same plane as the window surround, nor is it cut to the same depth as the recess on the fireman’s window.
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Post by Baikal on Apr 28, 2023 16:58:22 GMT -8
The recent question on the windshields is just looking for trouble that's not there, IMHO. Look again at that 4316. The gasket recess on the engineer’s window intrudes further out on the fillet where the nose meets the window surround, and the window edge is closer to the center line than the fireman’s window is. You can see this in relation to the crease in the center post. The crease lines up with the center of the headlight, so it certainly appears the window is wider on that side (engineer’s window).
The windshields are symetrical. The apparent asymmetry are due to point-of-view & camera specs, etc. It's a red herring, a distraction actual problems.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 28, 2023 17:15:08 GMT -8
I agree. I'm seeing uneven lighting and unsymmetrical photo setup.
Ed
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Post by cemr5396 on Apr 28, 2023 17:23:12 GMT -8
It's visible from multiple angles, in multiple different photos taken by different people with different cameras.
It's not 'camera tricks'. If it was it would change based on angle, focal length, lens used, lighting, and a multitude of other things that make it pretty much impossible for it appear the same way every time.
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