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Post by lvrr325 on Dec 16, 2022 3:52:36 GMT -8
Nah, I think once they're sold out you should be able to sell yours to the guys who just want one and don't know or care about the issues with it.
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Post by atsf_4 on Dec 16, 2022 10:27:09 GMT -8
Love the optimism. However, it seems dealers everywhere still have plenty of Rapido PA's remaining in stock, and Amtrak special edition E units, so it could be a long while, maybe years, before they all sell out.
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Post by rockisland652 on Dec 16, 2022 12:12:37 GMT -8
Whatever, for one I don't trust Lombard anymore, as it seems they are sending out the dogs mail order, which may also be why their prices tend to be cheaper than everyone else. Oh, and their BLI A units are $220, which is still more than 10% difference below Rapido. Some engines I got from Lombard were not as good looking as what I'm receiving brand new from elsewhere, and they are literally the exact same models. Lombard does provide a slip showing the model was "inspected", but my units of the exact same model from Spring Creek are arriving unmolested and 100% intact, while the Lombard units have had minor damage to paint and even some missing details, which are annoying, and saving $20 or $30 is not worth that. Plus I don't have the capability to do pro-level paint touch up work, and I should not have to do that on a brand-new model (though I often try to do that in lieu of dealing with the hassle of sending models back). The one time in recent months I had an actual outright damaged return to Lombard, it was more hassle for me than I believe it should have been and took much longer to get my money back. So Lombard is on my naughty list this Christmas. I have never experienced this. How odd. Lombard is on my nice list. |
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Post by Tom on Dec 16, 2022 12:26:15 GMT -8
Love the optimism. However, it seems dealers everywhere still have plenty of Rapido PA's remaining in stock, and Amtrak special edition E units, so it could be a long while, maybe years, before they all sell out. On that, weren't there supposed to be only 500 of the 4316 produced? For the number of dealers that have them in stock that seems...odd. |
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Post by sd80mac on Dec 16, 2022 12:27:59 GMT -8
Love the optimism. However, it seems dealers everywhere still have plenty of Rapido PA's remaining in stock, and Amtrak special edition E units, so it could be a long while, maybe years, before they all sell out. On that, weren't there supposed to be only 500 of the 4316 produced? For the number of dealers that have them in stock that seems...odd. Originally that was the case. Demand was so great that they increased the production run by quite a lot. |
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Post by gevohogger on Dec 16, 2022 13:14:42 GMT -8
On that, weren't there supposed to be only 500 of the 4316 produced? For the number of dealers that have them in stock that seems...odd. Originally that was the case. Demand was so great that they increased the production run by quite a lot. My prediction: A year or two from now, the "regular" Amtraks will be super hard to come by, commanding huge prices on Ebay, while the 4316 collects dust in the discount rack at shops all across the country. |
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Post by typhoon on Dec 16, 2022 14:11:50 GMT -8
Whatever, for one I don't trust Lombard anymore, as it seems they are sending out the dogs mail order, which may also be why their prices tend to be cheaper than everyone else. Oh, and their BLI A units are $220, which is still more than 10% difference below Rapido. Some engines I got from Lombard were not as good looking as what I'm receiving brand new from elsewhere, and they are literally the exact same models. Lombard does provide a slip showing the model was "inspected", but my units of the exact same model from Spring Creek are arriving unmolested and 100% intact, while the Lombard units have had minor damage to paint and even some missing details, which are annoying, and saving $20 or $30 is not worth that. Plus I don't have the capability to do pro-level paint touch up work, and I should not have to do that on a brand-new model (though I often try to do that in lieu of dealing with the hassle of sending models back). The one time in recent months I had an actual outright damaged return to Lombard, it was more hassle for me than I believe it should have been and took much longer to get my money back. So Lombard is on my naughty list this Christmas. I have never experienced this. How odd. Lombard is on my nice list. I agree. I have been going there since his shop was behind the barber shop in "downtown" Lombard. While I no longer live close I have never had an issue with their shipping or the quality of the models. |
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Post by rockfan on Dec 16, 2022 17:38:05 GMT -8
I have never experienced this. How odd. Lombard is on my nice list. I agree. I have been going there since his shop was behind the barber shop in "downtown" Lombard. While I no longer live close I have never had an issue with their shipping or the quality of the models. Lombard hobby is great, never had a problem with them. |
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Post by jonklein611 on Jan 13, 2023 13:44:40 GMT -8
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Post by ictom on Jan 16, 2023 5:14:54 GMT -8
I agree. I have been going there since his shop was behind the barber shop in "downtown" Lombard. While I no longer live close I have never had an issue with their shipping or the quality of the models. Lombard hobby is great, never had a problem with them. I've actually had a problem with them in shipping, but they responded as well or better than any other dealer in my experience. The issue was a new BLI P4 Big Boy. As many of you know, BLI now ships their steam locos connected to the tender. It makes for a long box - the Big Boy is the longest of all. The Post Office decided to try to bend it in half and partially succeeded. Unfortunately, the Lombard packer used a simple box with a bit of brown paper inside and nothing else. The BLI box could shift back and forth and had no support in the middle. It didn't take much to bend it the way it was packed, no matter how the shipper handled it. Visually, there were only a couple of marks on the outside of the loco, but the BLI box clearly had a crease in the middle. So, I was worried that unseen damage had also occurred. I contacted Lombard but hesitated asking for a return, because I couldn't confirm for certain that it was really damaged. Lombard was absolutely stellar in their response and quickly told me to return it. They emailed me a return label and the sales mgr himself packed a new one and shipped it before they even received my damaged one back. The replacement Big Boy I received was absolutely perfect with no defects. I recently ordered my Rapido Illinois Central E8s from them, along with a couple of the Tangent cabooses, too. I'll continue to purchase from them in the future. When I can afford it, that is - the Big Boy and this last order set me back for a while! |
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Post by rockfan on Jan 16, 2023 7:25:42 GMT -8
My situation was the Rapido switcher that showed up with the wrong paint scheme.
That was Rapidos fault but I called and they sent me the paint scheme I wanted/ordered and sent the other one back.
They included a return label so I just had to take it to a ups store.
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Post by elfan on Jan 16, 2023 22:18:29 GMT -8
Waiting for the Heartland Hobbies special run of E8, particularly the Erie version for my Erie Limited. They replaced the F3s on the prototype and that’s my plan too. Was told it was going to be early 2023. I can live with the minor described physical issues as long as the paint is correct. I used Accu Paint to paint the passenger equipment years ago, I’m hoping the colors they use match, or are at least very close.
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Post by middledivision on Jan 17, 2023 8:03:05 GMT -8
Well...
The blue on their D&H PA did not match their passenger cars.
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Post by peoriaman on Jan 17, 2023 19:17:36 GMT -8
I have never experienced this. How odd. Lombard is on my nice list. I agree. I have been going there since his shop was behind the barber shop in "downtown" Lombard. While I no longer live close I have never had an issue with their shipping or the quality of the models. And they are very responsive if you call them.... Ask for Andy. He is not the owner, but the go-to guy there if there are any issues with an order. If Andy doesn't answer, ask for him. |
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Post by el3625 on Jan 30, 2023 14:45:24 GMT -8
What is with the big gap on the front pilot underneath the coupler on Rapido's Erie Lackawanna E8"s? Is this how they are being delivered? I went through a lot of EL E8 photo's on Fallen Flags website and there is no pilot missing under the front coupler on any of them. This big piece of missing pilot really looks stupid. I sure hope they do not come this way.
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Post by onequiknova on Jan 30, 2023 15:21:24 GMT -8
What is with the big gap on the front pilot underneath the coupler on Rapido's Erie Lackawanna E8"s? Is this how they are being delivered? I went through a lot of EL E8 photo's on Fallen Flags website and there is no pilot missing under the front coupler on any of them. This big piece of missing pilot really looks stupid. I sure hope they do not come this way. Bruce Originally, the freight pilots had a removable hatch that had to be removed to hook up the steam lines. Many roads removed them permanently. Others didn't. Rapido tooled up exactly two pilots for this state of the art E8. At least that's all they've used so far. The freight pilots with the missing hatch, and the horizontal UP pilot. They are sticking the UP pilot on everything that should have a passenger pilot, which is just wrong. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 30, 2023 15:34:05 GMT -8
SO happy I can do without a 44ton.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 30, 2023 15:46:08 GMT -8
Rapido tooled up exactly two pilots for this state of the art E8. The freight pilots with the missing hatch, and the horizontal UP pilot. They are sticking the UP pilot on everything that should have a passenger pilot, which is just wrong. wow. I don't even know what else to say to that. |
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Post by onequiknova on Jan 30, 2023 16:13:02 GMT -8
Since this thread was bumped, I thought I'd share my "fix" for the porthole issues. I bought a B unit to remove the lettering and make an ex UP Rock Island B unit out of. I ended up boring out the porthole using #11- through #2 drill bits, using each bit to opening them up slowly to stay on center. (I mostly succeeded). Then with a tickle from a tapered reamer, a Highliner porthole glass lightly presses in. It looks ok to my eye, much better than before, but the rim ends up a tad thin. The overall size over the outer ring is about .012" smaller in diameter than the Highliner porthole, and about the same for the BLI E8. This does nothing to fix the center portholes for those who have E8s. The larger center portholes is only correct for some, (all?) E9s.    |
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Post by ambluco on Jan 30, 2023 17:13:32 GMT -8
Gee John, you kind of take the fun out of the thread with all your modeling and such.  |
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Post by packer on Feb 1, 2023 17:48:26 GMT -8
SO happy I can do without a 44ton. Ed I just hope they don't go that lazy on the C30-7 and RS-11s.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 1, 2023 17:52:46 GMT -8
Yeah, well I need the RS-11's. I'm pretty sure they've fixed the fan shroud and the disassembly problem. Hope they can figure out BN green. NP black should be within reach, I think.
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Post by champagnetrail on Feb 6, 2023 8:54:35 GMT -8
What is with the big gap on the front pilot underneath the coupler on Rapido's Erie Lackawanna E8"s? Is this how they are being delivered? I went through a lot of EL E8 photo's on Fallen Flags website and there is no pilot missing under the front coupler on any of them. This big piece of missing pilot really looks stupid. I sure hope they do not come this way. Bruce
Bruce...
The pilot is correct for EL #816 for the mid/late 1960s after the portholes had been removed and before the pilot was "filled in" where the steam lines would pass through. You are correct in thinking that if you want the unit to appear as it did in the mid-70s that you might have to do some work on the pilot.
It would be kind of nice if Rapido had also tooled a "freight" pilot that could be swapped out.
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Post by el3625 on Feb 6, 2023 9:58:09 GMT -8
If anyone here is going to get an EL E8 from Rapido, please let everyone here know what you think of it. Looks, colors and running wise. I am not going to drop a chuck of change for one until all of the facts and issues are out on it. As we all are aware of that Rapido has a history of issues with most of their products. I really do not need one though, but I would rather have a couple of U25B's for my fleet.
Bruce
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Post by el3625 on Feb 11, 2023 14:11:47 GMT -8
I am back with a reminder, has any EL modeler or EL fan got a Rapido E8 yet? I just got my Lombards invoice for 2 and I am not completing the purchase until further review! I Just thought I would check back in case someone got one already. Thanks
Bruce
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Post by abm on Feb 11, 2023 14:32:56 GMT -8
I am back with a reminder, has any EL modeler or EL fan got a Rapido E8 yet? I just got my Lombards invoice for 2 and I am not completing the purchase until further review! I Just thought I would check back in case someone got one already. Thanks Bruce Respectfully, why don't you obtain them and provide your own review? And why stiff Lombard based on someone else's opinion of the models? |
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Post by el3625 on Feb 11, 2023 17:33:26 GMT -8
So, another comment from someone that likes to stir the pot, another post that has NOTHING to do with the inquiry at all, another troll. First of all, no one is getting stiffed, I tried to cancel my pre-order MANY months ago and Lombards emailed me back and said I did not need to just in case I changed my mind and would want them. They were the ones that would not cancel my pre-order. Why should I spend almost $400.00 for them and then not be happy with them. So, if you do not have something positively constructive to add to my post, don't. You seem to be just another person that likes to chime in on a situation that you know nothing about. One of your "likers" of your post is another one that does this a lot, and you know who you are. So, back to the subject at hand, if anyone has something constructive to add to my last post, it would be appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 18:21:47 GMT -8
I did not know that one could cancel a Lombard pre-order? More often than I would like to admit, I pick up models that I pre-ordered, and perhaps if I'm not completely happy I just sell them on Ebay or wherever else that I can.
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 11, 2023 19:07:24 GMT -8
Bruce,
the issues with the Rapido E units are well known in these parts, we've talked about them in great detail. Frankly I don't think it's a very good model. It might still be the best 'RTR' E unit out there but that is not saying a whole heck of a lot.
Road name does not matter, your EL ones have the same core issues all the rest of them do. If you are lucky, yours won't have side portholes and that will be one less wart on them. I'm not an EL guy so I don't know.
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Post by abm on Feb 11, 2023 19:31:18 GMT -8
So, another comment from someone that likes to stir the pot, another post that has NOTHING to do with the inquiry at all, another troll. First of all, no one is getting stiffed, I tried to cancel my pre-order MANY months ago and Lombards emailed me back and said I did not need to just in case I changed my mind and would want them. They were the ones that would not cancel my pre-order. Why should I spend almost $400.00 for them and then not be happy with them. So, if you do not have something positively constructive to add to my post, don't. You seem to be just another person that likes to chime in on a situation that you know nothing about. One of your "likers" of your post is another one that does this a lot, and you know who you are. So, back to the subject at hand, if anyone has something constructive to add to my last post, it would be appreciated. Bruce Excuse me? Want to try that again? Guilt by association AND an ad hominem attack... shoot from the hip often, do we? You insinuate that you've read my posting history... I'm not sure where you get the impression that I like to stir the pot... nor that I tend to post on situations "I know nothing about". You stated, unequivocally, that you would not be paying your Lombard invoice until >someone else< satisfied you that the EL E8's would be to your liking. What other conclusion were we all supposed to draw? I am a real person, a model railroader for many years, with a variety of prototype interests. Had you and I been sitting around the model railroad club crew lounge, I would have asked you EXACTLY the same questions in-person, as I did in my post above. Part-and-parcel of a general rule I have about posting on the internet... never say anything you wouldn't be willing to say in-person. Would you be willing to say to my face, what you wrote above? Think on that one for a bit. Regarding the Rapido E8; I'm not an EL modeler nor do I have any interest in the EL, so I'm not going to try to make a judgement of its prototypical accuracy for you. You, as a self-professed EL modeler, would seem to be in a much better position to do so yourself. I do have one (AMTK 4316) which I ordered, and paid for, sight-unseen, from Rapido. I believe it's a "pretty good" model. It seems to match the prototype well from the available photos. I'm not a big fan of the clunky plastic grabs, but they're less obvious on an all-black model. It runs VERY well, and the sound is "good" but not "great" owing partly, I think, to the fact it has only one speaker, which is located at the rear of the model. There are several fairly-high-resolution photos of the EL model circulating now, more than enough I would think to draw a conclusion yourself on the accuracy of the model. |
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