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Post by zephyrgray on Dec 2, 2022 19:03:46 GMT -8
Received a Rapido Union Pacific E-8A from the LHS and will be sending it back tomorrow AM. The model looks nothing like the artwork that been advertised. There are no grab irons on the side of the nose, or numbers in the number boards. The horns are mounted above the cab and not on the front winterization hatch. There is a warp to the rear on the Farr grills (both sides). I found that quite amusing since Rapido has always bragged about their non-warp grills. Lastly the yellow isn’t armor yellow but at least the nose herald looks like the artwork.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 2, 2022 20:14:54 GMT -8
I hope they can puzzle out BN green.
Ed
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Post by rockfan on Dec 2, 2022 22:10:52 GMT -8
I looked at Rapido's site, the UP E's are pictured without numbers in the number boards.
I don't know much about UP, maybe they did that for a while?
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Post by schroed2 on Dec 2, 2022 23:09:10 GMT -8
I looked at Rapido's site, the UP E's are pictured without numbers in the number boards. I don't know much about UP, maybe they did that for a while? UP and SP used the numberboards at some time (before my interest) for the train number instead of the engine number So, if the rest of the details fits for that time period, empty number boards might be a reasonable thing (e.g. if train number decals are availsble). I recall from the announcement, that the photos and the planned details did not match (and that i cancelled my pre-order accordingly) |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 3, 2022 6:44:20 GMT -8
I looked at Rapido's site, the UP E's are pictured without numbers in the number boards. I don't know much about UP, maybe they did that for a while? UP and SP used the numberboards at some time (before my interest) for the train number instead of the engine number Union Pacific: July 5, 1965 (from train numbers to leading locomotive number) I think the version Rapido was trying to model was earlier than that date, maybe around 1960. Ed |
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Post by sd80mac on Dec 3, 2022 6:56:09 GMT -8
The UP Es not having numbers in the number boards is correct, the train number would've been displayed in the number boards during the era the Rapido models are supposed to represent. They are left blank so the modeler can add whatever number of whatever train they want.
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Post by zephyrgray on Dec 3, 2022 6:56:44 GMT -8
FWIW. The picture on the box does match the engine. I did not see the announcement that Rapido was going to change their mind and change the detail. So with that said they used the later style side wind deflectors instead of leaving them without. I went to the Rapido website this AM and saw that they now have photos of the models and not the artwork. Also did some prototype research www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=784883 and here’s a link of UP 926 in the 1950’s with train number “104” in the number boards as practiced by the UP and SP. With that said, the snow shields over the winterization hatches weren’t installed yet. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 3, 2022 7:01:45 GMT -8
The UP Es not having numbers in the number boards is correct, the train number would've been displayed in the number boards during the era the Rapido models are supposed to represent. They are left blank so the modeler can add whatever number of whatever train they want. Microscale 87-1351, if Rapido fails to supply decals. Ed |
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Post by rockfan on Dec 3, 2022 7:06:48 GMT -8
They scanned an actual E8 at a museum, so I would think everything would be accurate.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 3, 2022 7:18:41 GMT -8
They scanned an actual E8 at a museum, so I would think everything would be accurate. That would include the portholes, of course. Ed |
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Post by Baikal on Dec 3, 2022 7:24:32 GMT -8
Received a Rapido Union Pacific E-8A from the LHS and will be sending it back tomorrow AM. The model looks nothing like the artwork that been advertised. There are no grab irons on the side of the nose, or numbers in the number boards. The horns are mounted above the cab and not on the front winterization hatch. There is a warp to the rear on the Farr grills (both sides). I found that quite amusing since Rapido has always bragged about their non-warp grills. Lastly the yellow isn’t armor yellow but at least the nose herald looks like the artwork.
Thanks for the info, yow. Let this be a warning to those considering buying Rapido products. Sorry you got scammed.
Maybe, like ScaleTrains, Rapido will send the rest of the batch back to China to be fixed? LOL, just kidding.
What's the issue with the yellow?
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Post by Baikal on Dec 3, 2022 7:33:22 GMT -8
They scanned an actual E8 at a museum, so I would think everything would be accurate.
Why? A scanner is just a tool and as such is only as good as the people wielding it. It's a Rapido management issue.
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Post by typhoon on Dec 3, 2022 7:35:48 GMT -8
The UP Es not having numbers in the number boards is correct, the train number would've been displayed in the number boards during the era the Rapido models are supposed to represent. They are left blank so the modeler can add whatever number of whatever train they want. Someone complaining about accuracy that they know nothing about? I am shocked! |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 3, 2022 7:46:08 GMT -8
The UP Es not having numbers in the number boards is correct, the train number would've been displayed in the number boards during the era the Rapido models are supposed to represent. They are left blank so the modeler can add whatever number of whatever train they want. Someone complaining about accuracy that they know nothing about? I am shocked! I'm shocked(!) that you see this as complaining. The poster confessed ignorance in the matter, and was subsequently informed. Ed |
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Post by typhoon on Dec 3, 2022 7:50:40 GMT -8
Someone complaining about accuracy that they know nothing about? I am shocked! I'm shocked(!) that you see this as complaining. The poster confessed ignorance in the matter, and was subsequently informed. Ed I guess I read a thread title “what a shame” as complaining. Silly me. |
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Post by 12bridge on Dec 3, 2022 8:09:17 GMT -8
They scanned an actual E8 at a museum, so I would think everything would be accurate. I can not unsee the front headlight issue now that it was pointed out to me. Would post a photo but I am not near a computer. |
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Post by zephyrgray on Dec 3, 2022 8:12:47 GMT -8
For the talley… I expected missing numbers on Rapido’s SP PA2’s. I expected numbers in the number boards for the UP E8 (and a whole lot more) based on artists drawings that were still being posted up to a few days ago on Rapido’s website. Some would call that bait and switch but my LHS said to send it back and they have generated a refund already so buyer beware. As far as the yellow goes, it’s subjective. I thought it was too light.
After looking at the model photos on Rapido’s website I will say that the NYC E-8’s look pretty nice and hope that they have the steam line cover plate for the freight pilot.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 3, 2022 9:07:01 GMT -8
I'm shocked(!) that you see this as complaining. The poster confessed ignorance in the matter, and was subsequently informed. Ed I guess I read a thread title “what a shame” as complaining. Silly me. Well, yes. You, unfortunately, did not make reference to the thread title, but quoted a significant element. One could only assume that you were talking about what you were quoting. Ed |
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Post by Tom on Dec 3, 2022 9:35:16 GMT -8
Needless to say, yet again, they keep refusing to do so, but production samples would eliminate issues like this.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 3, 2022 9:50:15 GMT -8
Needless to say, yet again, they keep refusing to do so, but production samples would eliminate issues like this. I am continually confused by this. Since Rapido owns their own factories, aren't THEY the ones large and in charge? Otherwise, why bother? "Why, yes, we OWN it. We just don't CONTROL it." Yup. Ed |
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Post by rockfan on Dec 3, 2022 10:18:17 GMT -8
I haven't seen a Rapido E8, or a FP7/9/FL9, but it seems like they did a great job with them, so I'm hoping since the F's apparently turned out great, the E's would be great also.
I agree a tool is only as good as the person using it.
I'm interested in the Rock Island E8, but don't like that I'll be forced to buy it with sound.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 3, 2022 11:12:13 GMT -8
zephyrgray,
If'n you're in the mood, could you possibly put the Rapido E next to a Walthers UP car, and see how much difference, if any, there is?
Many of us who follow UP have some Walthers cars, and I am curious if they'd match up (enough not to notice).
Ed
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Post by typhoon on Dec 3, 2022 11:16:59 GMT -8
I guess I read a thread title “what a shame” as complaining. Silly me. Well, yes. You, unfortunately, did not make reference to the thread title, but quoted a significant element. One could only assume that you were talking about what you were quoting. Ed It was one on the things that the OP took issue with in this original post. If his original post did not equate to the title 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by ambluco on Dec 3, 2022 11:32:21 GMT -8
That's the question I posted in the general talk section here. Rapido owns it but from previously posted videos and posts, the don't seem to control it. Needless to say, yet again, they keep refusing to do so, but production samples would eliminate issues like this. I am continually confused by this. Since Rapido owns their own factories, aren't THEY the ones large and in charge? Otherwise, why bother? "Why, yes, we OWN it. We just don't CONTROL it." Yup. Ed |
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Post by lvrr325 on Dec 3, 2022 12:13:24 GMT -8
I haven't seen a Rapido E8, or a FP7/9/FL9, but it seems like they did a great job with them, so I'm hoping since the F's apparently turned out great, the E's would be great also. I agree a tool is only as good as the person using it. I'm interested in the Rock Island E8, but don't like that I'll be forced to buy it with sound. Rapido does sell their engines without sound. |
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Post by rockfan on Dec 3, 2022 12:28:43 GMT -8
Nope, if you want RI, or some other roadnames you have to pay for sound.
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Post by zephyrgray on Dec 3, 2022 14:28:49 GMT -8
zephyrgray, If'n you're in the mood, could you possibly put the Rapido E next to a Walthers UP car, and see how much difference, if any, there is? Many of us who follow UP have some Walthers cars, and I am curious if they'd match up (enough not to notice). Ed Ed, I wish I could but the engine is with UPS. Sorry. |
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Post by zephyrgray on Dec 3, 2022 14:31:46 GMT -8
I haven't seen a Rapido E8, or a FP7/9/FL9, but it seems like they did a great job with them, so I'm hoping since the F's apparently turned out great, the E's would be great also. I agree a tool is only as good as the person using it. I'm interested in the Rock Island E8, but don't like that I'll be forced to buy it with sound. Rapido does sell their engines without sound. Yes, Rapido does sell E-8’s without sound. Mine was non-sound because I prefer using different speakers than Rapido supplies. |
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Post by peoriaman on Dec 3, 2022 14:42:38 GMT -8
They scanned an actual E8 at a museum, so I would think everything would be accurate. Just like the B36-7 they scanned.... |
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Post by cemr5396 on Dec 3, 2022 15:41:35 GMT -8
"Why, yes, we OWN it. We just don't CONTROL it." Yup. This is probably the root cause of 90% of Rapido's problems. They let their factory have FAR too long of a leash and it regularly comes back to bite them in the ass. |
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