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Post by Baikal on Sept 21, 2023 17:54:28 GMT -8
I think I had issues with my F30D too, but can't remember what. I still don't know how they got the weight so wrong on the X72's. simple, they just do not care. I got some 3800 hoppers from the most recent run and they are light as a feather.... even though the ones from the previous runs were perfectly weighted. Goes back to my point about managing to mess up a good thing.
Weights cost money.
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Post by dti406 on Sept 21, 2023 17:58:22 GMT -8
I received my NKP RS-11's today, the horn placement is more like the 800 series engines as all the pictures of the 500 series RS-11's show a 2 chime on the short hood and a single chime on the long hood, and no firecracker antenna. Other than that I am pleased with my purchase. Rick Jesionowski
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Post by blhs569 on Sept 22, 2023 13:30:10 GMT -8
I just received today the D&H RS11 № 5005 with DCC & sound I took a chance on. It's a road number that is missing in my fleet. I figured if the Rapidio models are not worth getting to replace others in my fleet, I at least made an addition to it. First of all... an immediate improvement of the PA's I purchased in that there were no loose, missing or broken parts upon arrival... Yeah!! If fact I couldn't find any of the QC issues I had with the PAs (glue sports, crooked applied parts, etc.). There was on grab iron that was pushed all the way in flush with the shell, but I was able to pry back out with an Xacto knife to equal spacing as with the others.
The gray paint is definitely off. When I first saw it it reminded me of the color on the shell of the Atlas / Kato release of 1994. Talk about q step backwards! At least, Rapido didn't go with a molded gray for the side & under frames like Atlas originally did. Anyway... here's a comparison photo amongst the different manufactures. On top, Bowser's most recent released D&H RS3 № 1508 (a stunning model)... center left is a LifeLike Proto 1000 RS11... to the right, the Rapido model that arrived today... below it is the Atlas / Kato release of 1994. (I did lightly weather it with powder chalks years ago in hopes of blending the two shades of gray without much success.)
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 22, 2023 13:52:10 GMT -8
I think you did a pretty good job n the bottom model. I can see running it with the other two. The Rapido is dark and with a warm color cast.
Ed
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Post by carrman on Sept 22, 2023 14:15:43 GMT -8
I just received today the D&H RS11 № 5005 with DCC & sound I took a chance on. It's a road number that is missing in my fleet. I figured if the Rapidio models are not worth getting to replace others in my fleet, I at least made an addition to it. First of all... an immediate improvement of the PA's I purchased in that there were no loose, missing or broken parts upon arrival... Yeah!! If fact I couldn't find any of the QC issues I had with the PAs (glue sports, crooked applied parts, etc.). There was on grab iron that was pushed all the way in flush with the shell, but I was able to pry back out with an Xacto knife to equal spacing as with the others.
The gray paint is definitely off. When I first saw it it reminded me of the color on the shell of the Atlas / Kato release of 1994. Talk about q step backwards! At least, Rapido didn't go with a molded gray for the side & under frames like Atlas originally did. Anyway... here's a comparison photo amongst the different manufactures. On top, Bowser's most recent released D&H RS3 № 1508 (a stunning model)... center left is a LifeLike Proto 1000 RS11... to the right, the Rapido model that arrived today... below it is the Atlas / Kato release of 1994. (I did lightly weather it with powder chalks years ago in hopes of blending the two shades of gray without much success.)
Are there pictures?
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Post by Baikal on Sept 22, 2023 14:29:51 GMT -8
... here's a comparison photo amongst the different manufactures. On top, Bowser's most recent released D&H RS3 № 1508 (a stunning model)... center left is a LifeLike Proto 1000 RS11... to the right, the Rapido model that arrived today... below it is the Atlas / Kato release of 1994. (I did lightly weather it with powder chalks years ago in hopes of blending the two shades of gray without much success.)
I don't see a photo or link.
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Post by blhs569 on Sept 22, 2023 14:42:06 GMT -8
Odd... it shows in the post for me. Ed obvously can see it since he made comments about it. carrman quoted my post & it shows in the quoted section. Not sure what is going on ?
[Edited to provide a sharing link. Been a while since I used this service]
Let's try this...
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Post by Baikal on Sept 22, 2023 14:56:20 GMT -8
I see that link, but not in your original post. But using Firefox it leads to a Google 404 error page. Using Opera it leads to a Google login page.
Odd that Ed saw & used your link ok.
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Post by snootie3257 on Sept 22, 2023 15:02:50 GMT -8
The photo showed up for me too. I couldn’t understand why others couldn’t see it. Usually not seeing the photos happens to me. Steve
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Post by ambluco on Sept 22, 2023 15:05:10 GMT -8
Ed usually sees more than we all do.
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Post by carrman on Sept 22, 2023 15:08:36 GMT -8
Ed usually sees more than we all do. Ed's just that good.
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Post by prr 4467 on Sept 23, 2023 9:32:27 GMT -8
Ok, I finally caved. Because Brian Marsh's photos showed the Seaboard unit in particular as looking very good, and because the one poster on this thread also received an actually stunning looking Seaboard unit, and I've never had any unit in that scheme, but always wanted to, I just ordered one plain dc unit from Overland Hobbies. If the one I get looks as good as the one above, maybe I'd get more. So this is a test.
As it happens, I haven't ordered anything from Overland Hobbies in awhile (nothing against Brian and family at all; they just didn't have something I needed in stock). I did pre-order two of the N&W Pevlar Blue 86' boxcars from them; I forget the name of that new manufacturer.
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Post by bnsf971 on Sept 23, 2023 11:57:55 GMT -8
I forget the name of that new manufacturer. Ajin?
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Post by prr 4467 on Sept 23, 2023 12:07:56 GMT -8
Oh, no, Ajin Precision is long gone. They were sold and renamed into another company, and Overland Models is out of the brass importing business and has been for several years. They DO sell models on consignment, and some of their loyal customers from the past keep them reasonably well stocked with Overland Models of the past, but they are consigned. Class One Model Works is joining Tangent and ScaleTrains in producing high end 86' boxcars (mostly plastic). www.overlandhobbies.com/N_W_Thrall_86_Highcube_Boxcar_Type_4_EOCC_p/comw-fc00315-7.htm
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Post by cpr4200 on Sept 23, 2023 14:56:59 GMT -8
That D&H gray is WAY off. IMO the yellow isn't "gold" (dark) enough and the blue looks too dark. What a shame. Could have been a stunning model.
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Post by wagnersteve on Sept 23, 2023 15:36:05 GMT -8
Sept. 23, about 7:30 p.m., EDT
blhs 569, thanks for reposting your comparison photo of various HO D&H models in the lightning stripe livery with a link I was able to use to see it. It's VERY useful, and I concur with you and others that the gray on the Rapido RS-11 is too dark. I wish I had seen the photo and its caption before sending in my submission for "Modeling Matters" in the November issue of the Bridge Line Historical Society Bulletin yesterday, which I submitted after the noon deadline. I hope I may be able to insert a change when I go over an edited version with our nominal Editor, presumably early next week. She is not familiar with trains, real or model; her husband our nominal Publisher is. He does a lot of writing and editing and layout; she does a lot of the "grunt" work for the group.
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Post by prr 4467 on Sept 23, 2023 15:40:44 GMT -8
Yes, the grey is way bad. They should offer replacement bodies.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 23, 2023 16:13:23 GMT -8
Yes, the grey is way bad. They should offer replacement bodies. Lemme see. Did they do that when they painted the SP&S FA-2's with C&NW colored paint? Nahhhhhhh....... Ed
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Post by prr 4467 on Sept 24, 2023 7:56:20 GMT -8
I know they aren't going to do replacement shells, no matter how loud some folks scream.
Should and Will are two different things.
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Post by locochris on Sept 24, 2023 9:41:38 GMT -8
I wonder if they just don't bother to inspect them properly before shipping them out from their warehouse, or if they inspect them but decide the issue isn't worth not shipping them out. Both are bad, but #2 is worse.
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Post by cpr4200 on Sept 24, 2023 10:57:28 GMT -8
RE: freight car weight. Could it cost less to ship lighter cars?
RE: RS11/18/36 fans. I thought the fans on my RS18's looked a little small. They're 4'9" diameter, compared to 5'0" on an Atlas RS32. The RS18 fan sits higher than the RS32. The Rapido fan has 5 or 6 blades, while I remember Alcos having only 3. KV's Alco fans have 3 blades.
Wish it was easier to find good top views of locomotives.
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Post by hudsonyard on Sept 24, 2023 12:51:44 GMT -8
I wonder if they just don't bother to inspect them properly before shipping them out from their warehouse, or if they inspect them but decide the issue isn't worth not shipping them out. Both are bad, but #2 is worse.
if i had to make a semi educated guess, motor components are mass tested then placed into a build tray and sent to the line, a final model probably gets a visual once over during the packaging process. then the next time anyone looks at it is when your shipment arrives.
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Post by prr 4467 on Sept 24, 2023 14:00:11 GMT -8
I have physically been there (at another importer, NOT Rapido) when models arrived. They sample a few of each item number and photograph them and post pictures on the website, but nobody has time or staff to inspect each and every model. Sure, Intermountain allegedly did it on big articulateds when they thought there was a concern, but under normal circumstances, nobody inspects each loco beyond whatever brief visual and test run inspection occurs at the factory.
The models go from the factory shipping cases into whatever new boxes for shipping to the dealers. Some of the better dealers buy the locos in case lots, so all the importer has to do is affix shipping labels and send the cases out. (Boxes are typically labeled with the item number on them).
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Post by cpr4200 on Sept 24, 2023 14:15:48 GMT -8
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Post by cpr4200 on Sept 24, 2023 14:22:33 GMT -8
Dark, but here's a closeup of an RS11 demo's cooling fan:
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 24, 2023 14:37:29 GMT -8
I have physically been there (at another importer, NOT Rapido) when models arrived. They sample a few of each item number and photograph them and post pictures on the website, but nobody has time or staff to inspect each and every model. Sure, Intermountain allegedly did it on big articulateds when they thought there was a concern, but under normal circumstances, nobody inspects each loco beyond whatever brief visual and test run inspection occurs at the factory. The models go from the factory shipping cases into whatever new boxes for shipping to the dealers. Some of the better dealers buy the locos in case lots, so all the importer has to do is affix shipping labels and send the cases out. (Boxes are typically labeled with the item number on them). Since ALL of any road are painted the same color, the fact that it was a bad match would be discernible when the first one was opened. Ed
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Post by cemr5396 on Sept 24, 2023 16:23:39 GMT -8
the grey in that photo is still much lighter than what Rapido used though.
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Post by win70rob on Sept 24, 2023 18:24:07 GMT -8
At this point and 7 Rapido RS-11 disappointments later, I’ve gone ahead and cancelled my order for the 44 ton locomotives they are offering, I’ve emailed them twice now about the D&H color issue and still no response. They seem to be happier making science fiction references than they do quality control. I doubt they will make good on it. I remember when Tru-Line trains botched the New Haven and Long Island C-Liners, although they made good on it and replaced all the shells, the company just never recovered and now sold tooling to Atlas. I just don’t believe that they will fix this issue, seems to costly to me
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Post by wmcbride on Sept 24, 2023 20:10:09 GMT -8
To resurrect my earlier question:
Can anyone confirm if the NP and BN (NP patch) units have ground lights on both sides of the cab as reported on the BN units?
Thanks, Bill McBride
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Post by gnfan on Sept 24, 2023 20:30:44 GMT -8
To resurrect my earlier question: Can anyone confirm if the NP and BN (NP patch) units have ground lights on both sides of the cab as reported on the BN units? Thanks, Bill McBride Bill, Yes, the NP units have ground lights on both sides. I would assume the BN patch units do as well .David Brockmeier
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