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Post by Brakie on Apr 28, 2014 15:08:30 GMT -8
Larry,
You were too Young in 54 to really know what was going on in the Hobby.
I was too Young also.
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Was I? I was 6 years old and was going to the O Scale club with my Dad(whenever he was home-he was a fireman in'54.)..Once a month we would visit the HO club.I recall seeing lots of scratch built locomotives and I recall the Hobbyline FM 10-44,Varney and Linsey.I built my first Penn-Line 2-8-0 when I was 10 and my first Hobbytown RS 3-under my dad's supervision of course.
I wasn't your average kid..Every Saturday morning would find me at Hall's Hobbies without fail- rode a trackless trolley most Saturdays.I can still remember some guys puffing on their pipes.
I still have a strong memory of my childhood and I spent a life time around trains.
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Post by eh49 on Apr 28, 2014 17:00:17 GMT -8
Either the title is wrong, or the wrong model is pictured. That is a Atlas Century 425 in the photo.
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Post by Brakie on Apr 28, 2014 17:13:27 GMT -8
Either the title is wrong, or the wrong model is pictured. That is a Atlas Century 425 in the photo. A busted up Atlas C425.Looks like it took a nose dive straight to the big catch all.. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 17:37:20 GMT -8
Clueless seller bid that even admits they don't know what it is. First run busted up Atlas C425 in a Kato GP35 box. Gotta love e-Bay..... |
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Post by valenciajim on Apr 28, 2014 18:44:33 GMT -8
I have several of the Katos and they are great locomotives. I am very happy with them.
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Post by madlatvian on Apr 29, 2014 6:54:19 GMT -8
Thank you to all that took the time to read/respond or even just read. All comments are appreciated- the more input one has the easier to make a better decision. Looks like I will start the search for several of the Kato units. This definitely shows the sense of community that this forum consists of. Thanks again!
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Post by catt on Apr 29, 2014 7:41:26 GMT -8
There are several KATO GP35s on Ebay right now with prices ranging from reasonable to (IMHO) ridiculous.
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Post by riogrande on Apr 29, 2014 7:57:30 GMT -8
There are several KATO GP35s on Ebay right now with prices ranging from reasonable to (IMHO) ridiculous. That's how things are on Ebay lately - people trolling for prices considerably higher than MSRP - let them collect dust or electrons as they should. Check swap meets and trains shows. I would be shocked if KATO ran more GP35's in the future, they seem to have forgotten about re-running most of the older models and are concentrating on wide cabs and ultra modern mostly. Considering what is available presently in the GP35 arena, I'd say KATO's are still the best of the bunch and run like switch watches. |
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Post by nightmare0331 on Apr 29, 2014 8:16:48 GMT -8
The magical eight ball says "patience" on a rerun of Kato GP35's...  Enjoy! Kelley. |
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Post by catt on Apr 29, 2014 8:17:21 GMT -8
HO is the minority scale in my house.N is the majority scale  Never the less a large portion of my N scale stuff is KATO and it pleases me much.These GP35s get only a little runtime at club but they never fail to impress the other guys with their smooth running.But then again I like Athearn blue box locos too.  |
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Post by TBird1958 on Apr 29, 2014 8:21:13 GMT -8
I troll ebay for Kato '35s pretty regularly as I need 7 to replace all my P2K GP-30 chassis, have 4 so far. The most I've paid is $79.95, which is reasonable for one in good condition, eventually I'll partially defray their cost by selling the unused shells.
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Post by bnsf971 on Apr 29, 2014 9:38:30 GMT -8
The magical eight ball says "patience" on a rerun of Kato GP35's... Enjoy! Kelley. I, for one, have learned to never say never when it comes to Kato. I am not convinced that I want a locomotive with the P40/42 innards, though. But that can be a topic for another thread, if and when an announcement is made. |
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Post by Spikre on Apr 29, 2014 10:02:58 GMT -8
 Terry, would the P42 Dual Motor set up even fit in Hood Units ? will continue to wait for Kato to get back to the PHS-2 GP35s.  Larry, 6 in 1954 , think that says it all !! Spikre 
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Post by catt on Apr 29, 2014 10:06:58 GMT -8
I was 9 in 1954.Thanks guys now I feel old.  Oh, wait a minute.I am old |
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Post by cf7 on Apr 29, 2014 10:12:12 GMT -8
I was -9 in 1954...
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Post by Spikre on Apr 29, 2014 10:24:02 GMT -8
Thanks Guys,your making me feel Young !! did any of You ever have Round Table Meetings with Al Kalmbach, Charlie Penn or Hal Carstens ?? didn't think so. at under 10 we were all Newbies enjoying our Lionel,Flyer,or trying to keep our Tyco locos on the track. really don't think that was a Deep Insight into the Hobby Industry, FUN was more Important back then. Spikre 
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Post by Brakie on Apr 29, 2014 12:05:31 GMT -8
Larry, 6 in 1954 , think that says it all !! Spikre Bob,You have no idea..Here is a man that never threw a baseball or any type of ball when he was a kid-to busy chasing trains starting at the age of 7-snuck off on my Schwinn with a Kodak Brownie and extra film in the saddle bags..A teenager that chase trains instead of girls..At 16 with license in hand and a Olds 88(paid $50.00) I started my "serious" railfaning in places like Chillicothe, Marion,Galion and Springfield. I recall the scratch built locomotives very well..You see such was a highlight of any club meeting or Saturday mornings at Halls hobbies. |
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Post by nightmare0331 on Apr 29, 2014 12:17:42 GMT -8
The magical eight ball says "patience" on a rerun of Kato GP35's... Enjoy! Kelley. I, for one, have learned to never say never when it comes to Kato. I am not convinced that I want a locomotive with the P40/42 innards, though. But that can be a topic for another thread, if and when an announcement is made. Who said anything about a redesigned mechanism for the GP35? Enjoy! Kelley. |
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Post by bnsf971 on Apr 29, 2014 15:02:09 GMT -8
I, for one, have learned to never say never when it comes to Kato. I am not convinced that I want a locomotive with the P40/42 innards, though. But that can be a topic for another thread, if and when an announcement is made. Who said anything about a redesigned mechanism for the GP35? Enjoy! Kelley. An 8 pin plug for DCC would be about as redesigned as I would want in one. And I think that was already done in the last run of them. I guess a spot in the fuel tank for a speaker, like some of the later models, wouldn't be a bad thing, but it wouldn't keep me from buying one if it didn't. |
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Post by roadkill on Apr 29, 2014 15:39:46 GMT -8
The magical eight ball says "patience" on a rerun of Kato GP35's... Enjoy! Kelley. Oddly enough I hope you're wrong. I like getting bargains on these locos and it always seems when a new production run comes out everyone selling an old one wants the new MSRP for them. I doubt if I've paid more than $60 for any one of my small fleet of them. |
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Post by riogrande on Apr 29, 2014 15:47:01 GMT -8
The magical eight ball says "patience" on a rerun of Kato GP35's... Enjoy! Kelley. So with the winky wink I take it you know something the rest of us ordinary people don't? Otherwise I would be surprised if KATO reran the GP35, it's been a long time out of production. |
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Post by onequiknova on Apr 29, 2014 15:51:03 GMT -8
I, for one, have learned to never say never when it comes to Kato. I am not convinced that I want a locomotive with the P40/42 innards, though. But that can be a topic for another thread, if and when an announcement is made. Who said anything about a redesigned mechanism for the GP35? Enjoy! Kelley. I guess that rules out a phase II. Bummer. |
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Post by gasmith on Apr 29, 2014 17:51:06 GMT -8
I have a BB Athearn GP35 someone thought enough of, probably in the mid-1980s, to actually cut up and redo the hoods to scale width, replacing the cab with what appears to be an Athearn SD40/GP38/40/50 cab. Some of the hood top is scratchbuilt; sides are stock, cut away from the deck and moved in. It's even fairly nicely painted in Erie Lackawanna colors. Unfortunately it's never been finished, needing handrails and the chassis is bare. But I have a NIB late BB GP35 here I can rob parts from for it. I bought it mostly because it's an oddball and it might be fun to fake people out with it. One thing that struck me on it is the hood door hinges look oversized on it. There was an article in MR back in the late 80s about doing that. I did one in RF&P.
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Post by dtinut on Apr 29, 2014 17:55:17 GMT -8
Kato has the silky smooth drive, and 3 different phases, so at least they are good starting points. The RTR Athearn with the newer drive is pretty nice, hardwired with better bulbs, they can be nice. mostly depends on the luck with the motor - so are good, some are meh... Bachmann's model is OK, and is a phase 1A I believe. I did a bunch of work on one, and it runs really nice. Here is a RPP with lots of other parts sitting on a P2K GP30drive  Here is the RPP model next to the Bachmann I did a lot of work on.  Brian |
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Post by gasmith on Apr 29, 2014 17:55:36 GMT -8
All of my RPP GP35s are powered by new motor BB drives and both of my Spectrum GP30s were repowered with them.
Cheap and "bulletproof". 'Nuff said......
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Post by oldmuley on Apr 29, 2014 18:37:29 GMT -8
I picked up a Kato GP35 a year ago at a train show for $30. I really didn't need it, but the price was hard to pass up. It was surprising to me to see that the couplers were held in place with plastic pins instead of screws. That must have been an "old" Kato thing since I don't thing I'd seen that before.
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Post by dstark on Apr 29, 2014 19:26:00 GMT -8
Spikre, I'm positive that this has been posted before, but the MTH Ph 2 GP35 is just that with the narrow sill at the center, slope-top fuel tank, correct hood door latches and upper headlight bulge, etc. It is true that all of the early catalog illustrations showed a Phase 1 body. I only have the MTH Phase 2, so I can't compare the walkway height to their Phase 1 model to see if the Phase 2 is higher as on the prototype. The Phase 2 features are clearly seen in the photos of the ATSF unit posted almost 16 months ago: www.mthtrains.com/news/512Doug Stark  all pics seen here of the so called MTH PHS-2 GP35s have been of PHS-1 units. |
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Post by nightmare0331 on Apr 30, 2014 8:53:50 GMT -8
Brian- I like that DT&I unit. Very sharp! Random fun fact...Stewart/Bowser AAR side frames will fit a Kato GP35 truck if one ever finds the need to mount AAR type trucks under a Kato unit. The spacing is a hair off, but on a finished model, it's not really noticable.  Enjoy! Kelley. |
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Post by Spikre on Apr 30, 2014 10:34:12 GMT -8
Doug, thanks for the link,it wont load here,but will try it again later at the Library. the catalog pics are what are on hand here. Kato Coupler Pins: most 90s Katos seem to use pins to hold in the Horn Hook Couplers. easy to make a Kadee box fit and use 2-56 screws to hold in a Kadee coupler. the SD38-2 and RS-2 do have Coupler Mounting Screws !! and do also have the Kato Knuckle Couplers,easily changed to Kadees,or maybe even Sergents ? havnt tried Sergents yet,so not sure how easily they can be mounted. Brian, nice Ann Arbor 35. Kelly, nice ICG 35s. Spikre
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Post by bar on Apr 30, 2014 17:29:12 GMT -8
[quote author=" dtinut" source="/post/37044/thread" timestamp="1398822917" Here is a RPP with lots of other parts sitting on a P2K GP30drive Here is the RPP model next to the Bachmann I did a lot of work on. Brian[/quote] Works for me! |
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Never the less a large portion of my N scale stuff is KATO and it pleases me much.These GP35s get only a little runtime at club but they never fail to impress the other guys with their smooth running.But then again I like Athearn blue box locos too. 
