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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 30, 2020 5:54:00 GMT -8
^ Understood about the uneasiness of one's modelling flaws. That used to bother me much more but I think that subsides over time as you soldier on, practice, improve your skills and gain confidence. I believe we see the flaws more than our viewers do. I appreciate the views regardless but hope that at least one kind viewer will be starting a caboose thread like this of their own?  P.S. I'll be posting another photo later today. |
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Post by slowfreight on Jul 30, 2020 6:14:34 GMT -8
Is anyone inspired enough to follow along with a similar caboose build of their own or is this just a spectator sport at this point lol? I have a core and the Fr8kar parts to do a Soo van (you know, the one Walthers just released  ). Unfortunately it hasn't moved far enough up in the stack. But this is making me itch to get to it. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 30, 2020 6:37:04 GMT -8
Is anyone inspired enough to follow along with a similar caboose build of their own or is this just a spectator sport at this point lol? I have a core and the Fr8kar parts to do a Soo van (you know, the one Walthers just released ). Unfortunately it hasn't moved far enough up in the stack. But this is making me itch to get to it.
I would love to see a thread from you on that project! Do you have all the required parts?
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Post by edgecrusher on Jul 30, 2020 7:01:35 GMT -8
Is anyone inspired enough to follow along with a similar caboose build of their own or is this just a spectator sport at this point lol? I have tons of ideas, just no time to execute them at the moment. I really appreciate you posting the play by play, breaking it down like you do makes it seem less daunting. |
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Post by jonklein611 on Jul 30, 2020 7:01:44 GMT -8
^ Understood about the uneasiness of one's modelling flaws. That used to bother me much more but I think that subsides over time as you soldier on, practice, improve your skills and gain confidence. I believe we see the flaws more than our viewers do. I appreciate the views regardless but hope that at least one kind viewer will be starting a caboose thread like this of their own? P.S. I'll be posting another photo later today. I also mainly model passenger trains  so no caboose necessary. I do have plans to modify my Bachmann Schnabel car to match the WECX car, with the associated nuclear reactor vessel load. Just always get uneasy hacking into an existing model. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 30, 2020 7:32:29 GMT -8
Thanks for the comments. Perhaps we'll see dedicated caboose build threads by edgecrusher and slowfreight in the future. Back to the CP end cupola van, here is my latest photo with decals and Krylon 1311 matte finish applied. The cupola will be decalled after building and installation are completed.  |
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Post by riogrande on Jul 30, 2020 8:17:32 GMT -8
Wow, it's really coming along nicely!
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Post by edgecrusher on Jul 30, 2020 8:21:25 GMT -8
That is really looking fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing how the cupola goes together, I cant quite picture it in my head.
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Post by simulatortrain on Jul 30, 2020 8:21:29 GMT -8
Very nice looking build! I would like to scratchbuild CRR caboose 1064 (ex-Monon 81515) but I'm unable to find any drawings.
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Post by edgecrusher on Jul 30, 2020 9:30:39 GMT -8
Very nice looking build! I would like to scratchbuild CRR caboose 1064 (ex-Monon 81515) but I'm unable to find any drawings. You'd certainly go thru a good amount of rivet decals for that one. But apparently the real one still exists, its at a museum in Duluth, GA if you felt like a road trip. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jul 30, 2020 22:19:47 GMT -8
I would be tempted for the CRR car to start with an old Athearn blue-box caboose (the Santa Fe style one probably) and make new sides, cupola, etc. from flat styrene. It might not be 100% but it would look right. Hard part on this one is going to be finding a view that shows the roof to get that right.
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Post by nsfantodd on Jul 31, 2020 4:25:34 GMT -8
Wow, coming together very nicely. Very excited to see the rest of the project.
Thanks for sharing the in progress photos and explanations, it's a great thread!
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 31, 2020 4:49:51 GMT -8
Insides hand painted light green, shade turns out darker than it appears in the bottle. Close enough as the interior won't be seen and I don't feel it misses the colour mark so much as to warrant fussing with the colour.  |
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Post by riogrande on Jul 31, 2020 5:43:06 GMT -8
If the interior color convey's through the windows well enough, that may be good. From memory, it's normally a light mint green.
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Post by slowfreight on Jul 31, 2020 6:11:29 GMT -8
I find it interesting how much you are doing before assembling the body. I've done structure kits as flat subassemblies before, but I always do rolling stock as fully-assembled shells before priming and painting, just to make sure I've filled/sanded all the joints fully. I'll be trying it your way on my next project, though, as it's a passenger car core kit with complicated paint job.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 31, 2020 6:23:39 GMT -8
If the interior color convey's through the windows well enough, that may be good. From memory, it's normally a light mint green. Correct on the mint green. Conveys? It will mostly be the cupola interior that is visible from the outside as the main body will mostly be dark. I suppose I could use my earlier, thicker custom mixed mint green inside the cupola if enough readers here think it's worthwhile. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 31, 2020 6:33:09 GMT -8
I find it interesting how much you are doing before assembling the body. I've done structure kits as flat subassemblies before, but I always do rolling stock as fully-assembled shells before priming and painting, just to make sure I've filled/sanded all the joints fully. I'll be trying it your way on my next project, though, as it's a passenger car core kit with complicated paint job. Thanks for the comment. Due to the underlying rivet decals and other details I would prefer to avoid masking and multiple airbrush, gloss and dull spray applications. In this case I would be masking roof, chassis and sides at various times to accomplish the different colours. There's also the issue of windows and seats which for the cupola requires the roof to be left off until the very end so the various coats can be independently applied before window, seat and roof installation. That said, you are absolutely correct about the various seams and joints that will result in the cupola area. I hope they won't be too much of a problem but the cupola is such a frail-boned component that would be tricky to handle for painting if built separately. I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong on this approach. This might be a case where the final results will be the deciding factor. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 31, 2020 6:56:02 GMT -8
Here's the interior green I made up for a previous build. What do you guys think?  |
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Post by gevohogger on Jul 31, 2020 7:13:43 GMT -8
I appreciate the views regardless but hope that at least one kind viewer will be starting a caboose thread like this of their own? Could it be some other type of car? I am pretty much set for cabooses. |
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Post by fr8kar on Jul 31, 2020 7:35:39 GMT -8
Here's the interior green I made up for a previous build. What do you guys think? Looks very clean. I would imagine the prototype didn't stay that clean for long! I like the color choice, though. |
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Post by edgecrusher on Jul 31, 2020 7:45:46 GMT -8
If the interior color convey's through the windows well enough, that may be good. From memory, it's normally a light mint green. Correct on the mint green. Conveys? It will mostly be the cupola interior that is visible from the outside as the main body will mostly be dark. I suppose I could use my earlier, thicker custom mixed mint green inside the cupola if enough readers here think it's worthwhile. I'd stick with what you have. Once you get it all assembled you won't be able to see much inside. Caboose windows aren't all that big, it'll be pretty dark in there. |
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Post by Christian on Jul 31, 2020 9:01:32 GMT -8
Here's the interior green I made up for a previous build. What do you guys think? With those big windows, it's probably worth digging out for the cupola. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 31, 2020 14:39:00 GMT -8
Thanks for all the earlier helpful comments. Now the lead weight has been safely installed and painted for a projected total car weight of approx 4 ounces vs the NMRA recommended 3.5. Styrene braces have been marked for which sides and ends go where. Not painted as the white sections are where the glue goes and no white will be visible once car is assembled.  |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 1, 2020 3:40:49 GMT -8
Quick picture of all the major parts before weathering & just about ready to close everything up -- it will be tricky to ensure it all ends up square.  |
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Post by simulatortrain on Aug 1, 2020 5:35:48 GMT -8
Can't wait to see the end result! Paint and decals look really great as well.
I've decided to try building a different Clinchfield caboose than the one I mentioned. Not that I need it, but WM doesn't give me much variety in that department.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 1, 2020 15:03:22 GMT -8
Sides weathered, sealed and dried, upgraded metal slider windows installed. I love how the rivets are still visible underneath all those coats of paint and sealer. The dryrbrush weathering used here really helped highlight them.  |
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Post by slowfreight on Aug 1, 2020 15:51:40 GMT -8
Humming along! Is this thing done and the photos in the can, or are you updating us in real time?
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 1, 2020 16:17:31 GMT -8
^ The photos are delayed somewhat but I am definitely not done! There are many reasons to stay inside these days and between those and the surprising amount of kind encouragement in this thread, the project has indeed hummed along. Lots of inspiration to keep this thread frequently updated and (apparently) interesting!
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 2, 2020 4:03:00 GMT -8
Ends attached to chassis, sides tested for fit and ready for final alignment and installation.  |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Aug 2, 2020 6:51:10 GMT -8
Really fast work, Manny! And looks good too!
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). Unfortunately it hasn't moved far enough up in the stack. But this is making me itch to get to it.
so no caboose necessary.
