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Post by mdvle on Aug 29, 2021 9:39:01 GMT -8
Has Rapido ever mentioned bringing back the VIA baggage car? It was one of their first products but disappeared from their website years ago. Since Amtrak inherited seven of them, it would have been great to see it offered again for the 50th anniversary. A new correct HEP underbody would be even better, but I’m sure that’s not worth the cost for such a small number of cars.
I'm assuming you are talking about the ex-CP Budd Baggage cars (VIA also had ex-CN Baggage cars that Rapido did as part of their Super Continental line).
Based on the comments made by Rapido all of the ex-CP Budd tooling had issues and was dangerous to use - they found a way to fix the tooling but the cost means the fixes need to be spaced out so the re-runs take time. They haven't specifically mentioned the Budd Baggage cars that I can recall, but they have more generally said they plan to do most (possibly all) of the Budd stuff with time - there is demand out there given the length of time since the Canadian set was released.
There has been no indication that the HO Budd stuff will ever be upgraded to the HEP versions - as Jason has said/joked for the HEP and later era the N scale Canadian is now the only accurate model.
As for the 50th, hindsight is great - my perception is that at least for the locos the demand for Amtrak stuff has surprised the manufacturers this year.
But there is potential for another 50th - VIA turns 50 in just over 5 years (January 12th 1977 was it's creation).
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and as always, put in a submission to Rapido so they know you want some Baggage cars done for Amtrak - the more people who request, the more likely (or sooner) it could get done.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 29, 2021 11:27:03 GMT -8
...all of the ex-CP Budd tooling had issues and was dangerous to use... not worn out, but dangerous Yikes Giant brown star for the designer of the molds!!! Ed
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Post by lvrr325 on Aug 30, 2021 3:15:37 GMT -8
a more detailed explanation of that would be interesting.
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Post by jonklein611 on Aug 30, 2021 4:39:56 GMT -8
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Post by mdvle on Sept 13, 2021 16:58:29 GMT -8
Rapido Live - September 13 2021
- expect another live event in October, though Canadian Thanksgiving may be an issue - Jordan, Josh, Bill - shipping from China - 3 months is now good, some products 4, 5 months - RS-18u - waiting for new samples - NE Caboose - CAD almost finished, 1 or 2 fixes need to be done by designers - X-3 - tooling soon - samples of the AutoFlood III - Budd 10-6 Sleeper - possibility depending on how the Slumbercoach sells - new run of LRC locos - no. Issues with tooling mean it would need a complete retool, market not there. - D10 - waiting for a new sample - for those who were reading the viewer chat, ongoing battle on the correct pronunciation of "decal"
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Sept 13, 2021 17:15:12 GMT -8
Rapido Live - September 13 2021 - for those who were reading the viewer chat, ongoing battle on the correct pronunciation of "decal" I’d never imagine…..oh model rail fans do take very little to get all fussed’ about stuff. What are the choices? Do we need a pole? Or is it poll? Is is about theEm-FASS-is on the wrong sy-LAB-ul, or?? DEE-cal* gets my vote. *like the state
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Sept 13, 2021 18:01:13 GMT -8
When I was a kid (early 1960s) they were often called "decalcomanias." But that doesn't solve the problem.
I still miss the annual Christmas season debates between Johnny Carson and Doc Severinson as to the correct pronunciation of "Poinsettia."
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 13, 2021 18:20:19 GMT -8
Speaking of pronumciation (and spelling):
If you're going to stick a "u" in color, just so you can be French (Norman) and sophisticated instead of a bunch of bumpkins (NOT a French word), you should at least pronounce it kuh-leur. Not kuler (rhymes with cruller (yum)).
Or, of course, throw the "u" out. Along with the tyrannical Red Coats. And, by the way, if you're gonna be a colony ruled by powerful outsiders, the English are really the best choice. Or the Americans. If you can suck them in.
Ed
Thanks. Had to get it out. That"u"s been weighing on me for years. Just don't get it.
What, by the way, is the Anglo-Saxon word for color (as in: "What color are ya gonna paint yer shield?" Whatever happened to it?
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Sept 13, 2021 19:20:38 GMT -8
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Post by severn on Sept 13, 2021 19:20:38 GMT -8
Blood I think was their word -- as in "my that's a nice shield with all that blood all over it." Later they adopted the french word for colour which was from latin all of which had various letters. They had to do this because the Normans made them. They were happy with blood for a long time. But our typesetters were efficient and dropped the u - so color. And yes I asked mr goog for part of this the rest I made up..
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 13, 2021 20:34:33 GMT -8
...which was from latin all of which had various letters. Roman stonemason: "What IDIOT added another letter to this word? Do you KNOW how much work it is? It's near quitting time; but, no, I have to chisel in this bloody (substitute Roman word here) "u". And we don't even HAVE "u"s yet!!!" Ed
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Sept 13, 2021 23:08:42 GMT -8
Sorry to heckle, but that's how I pronounce decal.
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Post by severn on Sept 14, 2021 6:38:10 GMT -8
Yeah it can't be deckill if that was the pronunciation.
Anyway even more off topic but I saw not that long some Roman writing artifacts retrieved from Londoninium's ancient river.
So they had this wax tablet. And using a metal or wooden stylus they'd write things on it, and then be able to reuse it.
They didn't have paper at that time. They did have papyrus based scrolls or the one made from animal skins but these were all pricey.
Whether they practiced their Us or not, I don't know ...
Also they had a kind of bus between some cities, I assume pulled by horses.
The simple steam "engine" had been invented but the two had ideas had never been put together.
I'm not sure they had tracked vehicles of any kind.
Desperately trying to tie this to trains. Travel was not rapido. Best I can do...
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 14, 2021 8:15:47 GMT -8
The Walthers Amfleets are just garbage, and the Bachmann ones are no better even they do roll. For $85 you really aren’t getting much. I am really hoping that Rapido will do the Amfleets, especially since they aren’t afraid to do phase I and II schemes. One can dream, right?
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Post by mdvle on Sept 15, 2021 16:01:08 GMT -8
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Post by stevewagner on Sept 15, 2021 18:41:05 GMT -8
Readers who insist on model railroad references in every post are welcome to skip this one. If I'm remembering something I read long ago correctly, I believe the dropping of the u's from words such as colour and flavour was part of Noah Webster's partly successful attempt at making spelling in American English a bit more phonetic than that in the King's English.
Thanks for The Ferro Kid's recollection of decalcomanias. But "decalcomania" goes back much farther than the 1960s. Decades earlier it was probably the original form of the decals used in model railroading and other hobbies, but it also referred to wet transfers used to produce pictures on parts of one's body, more or less like temporary tattoos. According to Leo Rosten's great that certainly not overly solemn The Joys of Yiddish, that term is the likely source of "cockamamie" (which he spelled "cockamamy", which isn't really Yiddish and certainly not Hebrew but was used mostly by American Jews in New York City (and not Chicago, where Rosten grew. up). It means "absurd" or "crazy" -- I think usually somewhat humorously -- and derives from kids' having no idea how "decalcomania" was spelled.
I learned from Wikipedia this morning that decalcomania comes from the French decalcomania derived from decalquer which an artist named Ravenet developed in France and perfected in England in the 1700's and that Ravenet was, among other things, an assistant to the great usually satirical artist William Hogarth. (There should be a "southwest to northeast slash over the first e in the French words.). And there was something of a decalcomania fad in the late 1800's.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 15, 2021 19:28:28 GMT -8
decalomania: the habit of frequently buying decals in the unrealistic expectation that they will be applied to appropriately finished models.
Ed
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Post by fr8kar on Sept 15, 2021 21:54:49 GMT -8
decalomania: the habit of frequently buying decals in the unrealistic expectation that they will be applied to appropriately finished models. Ed Martrac and Sunkist and Cornucopia and.... I'll never own enough trailers for all these decals. But I still keep buying them.
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Post by stevewagner on Sept 16, 2021 4:30:05 GMT -8
Great pseudo-definition, Ed! I read it just now after editing and adding to my earlier post on the subject.
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Post by cannon on Sept 16, 2021 6:35:17 GMT -8
decalomania: the habit of frequently buying decals in the unrealistic expectation that they will be applied to appropriately finished models. Ed Ed Ryan once said: “decals are cheap dreams”
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Post by littlejoee76 on Sept 16, 2021 8:15:30 GMT -8
Brits find it very funny when American modelers talk about "soddering"- too much like Churchill's summary of naval tradition as "rum, sodomy and the lash". We say "souldering" - as apposed to "souljering" if you're in the army.
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Post by riogrande on Sept 16, 2021 8:22:53 GMT -8
My wife (born and raised Brit) refers to going out on the lash.
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Post by stevewagner on Sept 16, 2021 8:31:34 GMT -8
I'd venture a guess that, except for those of us who watch TV programs and/or movies made in the UK, a considerable number of people born and raised in the US aren't really aware of how often many Brits say such things as "sod off" or "bugger that". Or how strong a term "bloody" probably still is in Britain.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 16, 2021 8:34:42 GMT -8
We say "souldering" - as apposed to "souljering" if you're in the army. Well, you have to, really. Otherwise people would think when you said "sod off", that it had something to do with solder removal, and think you balmy. Here in the former colonies, we don't use "sod off", and hence can freely pronounce "solder" correctly. You do make a good point about that silent "l". It, too, must go. Replacing it with a "d", as you did, is the answer. Otherwise some would think it a reference to a carbonated beverage. Ed
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Post by riogrande on Sept 16, 2021 9:40:25 GMT -8
I've been married now 10 years to my British wife and every time I thought I've heard all of the sayings etc. every now and again she pulls out a new one. But I did notice her say Tom ay toe not long ago, instead of Tom ah toe. So slowly she is getting Americanized. She has trouble at the bank. She tells the teller to "pay in" a cheque, and that confuses them. They are used to people saying, deposit this check please. She spells cheque differently. Tons of fun!
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Post by severn on Sept 16, 2021 13:33:34 GMT -8
I've been to the uk a few times. I've some friends there. Oddly enough I always get the same lecture on using the proper terms for things every time we appear as if we'd never been. Anyway next time I'm there if ever again this comes up I'm going to suggest we table it. Oh wait, that's going to confuse them... I know I'll pull my handy "actual real English and how to use it" guide out of my fanny pac... Oops I've done it again...
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Post by riogrande on Sept 16, 2021 18:22:34 GMT -8
I know I'll pull my handy "actual real English and how to use it" guide out of my fanny pac... Oops I've done it again... Aye, my wife clued me in on that one early on. 😁
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Sept 16, 2021 18:38:14 GMT -8
decalomania: the habit of frequently buying decals in the unrealistic expectation that they will be applied to appropriately finished models. Ed Have fallen into that trap, a couple years ago Microscale was said to have lost their rights to Mobil ie: the red Pegasus and supply was ending. I bought a half dozen sheets…also an area used/recycled model train stor often sells sets for pennies on the dollar they’ve found in collections or estates they’ve bought…I have fallen prey to the “ heck it’s only $.0, what the heck…” more than once.
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Post by jonklein611 on Sept 20, 2021 5:12:06 GMT -8
Rapido Live - September 13 2021 - new run of LRC locos - no. Issues with tooling mean it would need a complete retool, market not there. Ouch. Also a shame they didn't re-run the Amtrak LRC cars in HO this past run. I wonder if the LRC loco will be done in N or not.
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Post by mdvle on Sept 24, 2021 14:18:24 GMT -8
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Post by trainboyy on Sept 24, 2021 15:55:55 GMT -8
They must sense a huge, untapped model train market in brain-dead 14 year old girls and gender-confused early 20 somethings. You said that right. A waste of time in it's purest form.
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