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Post by mdvle on Dec 25, 2021 5:27:39 GMT -8
Rapido - Christmas 2021 announcements
(PDF's work in some browsers, not in others)
NEW - GP38 - SF, B&O, CSX, Southern, NS, Conrail, PC, BN, BNSF websitePDF NEW - rebuilt M40 (aka CN 3500 series) - in tooling, first samples expected spring - CN, Minnesota Commercial (conditional), Oil Creek & Titusville - conditional version (on sufficient preorders given requires essentially all new tooling for only this version) - BC Rail (A and B units), Providence & Worcester, Delaware Lackawanna Also a dealer exclusive - Ontario Southland - retailer is Otter Valley NEW - CP H1a/b steam loco : Limited Edition 2816 Excursion version - DCC sound only, correct oil tender, ditch lights, wooden display box, other excursion specific details DC or DCC Sound - 2803, 2810, unnumbered, 2808, 2816 (as built), spans the world herald (2808, 2814, 2815, 2818, 2817), Beaver Shield (2804, 2806, 2807, 2809, unnumbered) |
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Post by markfj on Dec 25, 2021 5:34:38 GMT -8
Merry Christmas indeed!
Thanks Mdvle!
Rapido beats ST, Atlas, and Athearn to market with a updated GP38, wow!
Thanks, Mark J.
Reading, PA
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Dec 25, 2021 5:39:18 GMT -8
Looks like they’re gluttons for punishment tempting a CSX GP38. Thought they learned their lesson on the B36-7. Looking forward to hearing CSX modeler’s comments.
“ And of course, the underframe. Amazing detail.” - no traction motor cables.
“ Maybe we'll keep the windows solid...” - probably will.
Not a model I necessarily need, but curious how they will turn out.
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Post by stevewagner on Dec 25, 2021 5:55:16 GMT -8
12/25/21, edited 9 a.m.., EST
The announcements of all the British Columbia Railway, BC Rail and Providence & Worcester M420's, and the Delaware-Lackawanna unit, are all conditional on receiving sufficient pre-orders by March 15.
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Post by mdvle on Dec 25, 2021 6:14:21 GMT -8
The Delaware Lackawanna is confusing, the email lists it as conditional and indicates it is an ex-BC Rail unit (which makes sense), but the video and website don't list it as conditional.
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Post by nebrzephyr on Dec 25, 2021 6:23:45 GMT -8
On the Santa Fe, if they are going with "blanked" class lights they also need to move the head light to the low nose.
Bob
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Post by gevohogger on Dec 25, 2021 6:40:05 GMT -8
On the Santa Fe, if they are going with "blanked" class lights they also need to move the head light to the low nose. Bob I could use some in their original number series.... 35xx's if I remember right. These are too new for me. Is Rapido still working on their PA, E8 and U25B? They sure do have a lot of irons in the fire. Hope all the new releases go well. B36-7 says "Hold my beer!" |
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Post by middledivision on Dec 25, 2021 7:01:57 GMT -8
Merry Christmas indeed! Thanks Mdvle! Rapido beats ST, Atlas, and Athearn to market with a updated GP38, wow! Thanks, Mark J. Reading, PA Why Athearn never did these is a mystery to me. Hopefully, this means ST will announce a GP30 at Amherst. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2021 7:23:06 GMT -8
It’s clearly wait and see…
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Dec 25, 2021 7:43:01 GMT -8
I know Athearn definitely considered the GP38, but I doubt now they’ll do it. They’d be behind the power curve unless they have it tooled and basically ready to go and I don’t think that’s a reality. . Merry Christmas indeed! Thanks Mdvle! Rapido beats ST, Atlas, and Athearn to market with a updated GP38, wow! Thanks, Mark J. Reading, PA Why Athearn never did these is a mystery to me. Hopefully, this means ST will announce a GP30 at Amherst. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2021 7:47:30 GMT -8
I am building one with an Atlas hood and sill…cannon cab, sub base, short hood, and fans…and the Genesis drive under it.
I have a Brian Banna step set for it too..,as of now; I’ll still keep my project engine.
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Post by mdvle on Dec 25, 2021 7:59:40 GMT -8
On the Santa Fe, if they are going with "blanked" class lights they also need to move the head light to the low nose. Bob I could use some in their original number series.... 35xx's if I remember right. These are too new for me. Is Rapido still working on their PA, E8 and U25B? They sure do have a lot of irons in the fire. Hope all the new releases go well.
PA is in production (they have showed photos from the factory), expected Spring 2022 per their website. From Jason's interviews the PA is the best selling loco Rapido have done.
U25B they just showed the first tooling samples. From Twitter sample1 and sample2
E8 got delayed when the factory made the unauthorized changes if I recall the explanation correctly.
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Post by TBird1958 on Dec 25, 2021 8:14:57 GMT -8
I am building one with an Atlas hood and sill…cannon cab, sub base, short hood, and fans…and the Genesis drive under it. I have a Brian Banna step set for it too..,as of now; I’ll still keep my project engine. My last two GP40's will be along these lines as well - I hope Rapido does a nice job on these and the logical follow on units. I have to think that this was Athearn or Scale Trains engine to do and their loss at moving so slowly and seemingly being too focused on the more modern stuff. |
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Post by 12bridge on Dec 25, 2021 8:29:08 GMT -8
This is certainly going to be a wait and see. The bar is set pretty high when it comes to standard cab EMD's, and with Rapido's track record... Maybe they are listening to their customers now?
Watch, ScaleTrains will announce the GP38-40 platform as their 4 axle..
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Post by trainboyy on Dec 25, 2021 8:44:34 GMT -8
On the Santa Fe, if they are going with "blanked" class lights they also need to move the head light to the low nose. Bob I'm no ATSF guy but I found a bunch of pictures that prove otherwise..   So at least for these two specific units referenced in the PDF, this is a correct arrangement. |
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Post by cera2254 on Dec 25, 2021 8:49:36 GMT -8
On the Santa Fe, if they are going with "blanked" class lights they also need to move the head light to the low nose. Bob I'm no ATSF guy but I found a bunch of pictures that prove otherwise.. So at least for these two specific units referenced in the PDF, this is a correct arrangement. I find myself in the same boat. I guess I can justify one running on the Conrail train LOCO that was a run through off of the TP&W/ATSF. I guess I’ll have to dump my Atlas units now. |
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Post by trainboyy on Dec 25, 2021 8:51:16 GMT -8
I'm no ATSF guy but I found a bunch of pictures that prove otherwise.. So at least for these two specific units referenced in the PDF, this is a correct arrangement. I find myself in the same boat. I guess I can justify one running on the Conrail train LOCO that was a run through off of the TP&W/ATSF. I guess I’ll have to dump my Atlas units now. If I ran Chicago Line I'd get these for TVLA. I believe Santa Fe power showed up very often on that train. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2021 9:05:21 GMT -8
Plus…the MoPac units were the early phase…
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Post by surlyknuckle on Dec 25, 2021 9:41:43 GMT -8
Chessie guy here...I could definitely use a nicer GP38. I have yet to check the numbers, but I need to see if any of the B&O numbers announced were still in B&O blue in 1981. I will gladly swap my Atlas gp38s for these as long as there are no glaring issues. My Atlas units have the cab dimension issues, but I've also installed Cannon fans and other details to bring them to "good enough" standards. If Rapido can deliver something that looks and performs better...I'm all in.
The real lip-biter for me would be this means the straight GP40 is not out of the realm of possibility....a model Chessie modelers have been craving and need. The Atlas GP40 is only correct for the first order of B&O units...but all 3 Chessie roads rostered later GP40s and they went EVERYWHERE.
I'm not exactly thrilled with Rapido after the B36-7 issues, and them not delivering on what I believe they promised when it came to accuracy. Luckily, my SBD B36-7s were "for fun" purchases, so I'm not as upset about them as the prototype SBD and CSX modelers...glaring issues on such a signature engine. Also, not thrilled with the GP20 tank car. First thing you need to do is throw away the trucks (note they used the same truck frames for 70ton cars and 100ton cars...just used different diameter wheelsets. Also read the diameter of the tank body is off by 7". That's uh.... about half as bad as the old MDC boxcar kits being a foot too wide!
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Post by slowfreight on Dec 25, 2021 9:52:58 GMT -8
Great to see the news on the BCOL units. My two Kaslo kits were NOT for the faint of heart, and I'm sure these will look/run better. We are truly spoiled for Alcos right now.
I'm getting off lucky on the GP38s, although a PC or CR unit might tempt me. CNW stocked up on GP15s and used GP7s and 9s, so never had a GP38.
Wish they would do a conditional announcement for an RTA/Metra phase 1 F40PH...they might be pleasantly surprised. Guess I'll have to build one first, like I did with the M420 and NJT Comet cars.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 25, 2021 10:11:20 GMT -8
Also read the diameter of the tank body is off by 7". That's uh.... about half as bad as the old MDC boxcar kits being a foot too wide! I just did a read on the subject on MFCL: groups.io/g/MFCL/topic/17117531#9317and the MDC error appears to be about 8". So it's actually 88% as bad. Ed |
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Post by csx3305 on Dec 25, 2021 10:29:20 GMT -8
Looks like they’re gluttons for punishment tempting a CSX GP38. Thought they learned their lesson on the B36-7. Looking forward to hearing CSX modeler’s comments. “ And of course, the underframe. Amazing detail.” - no traction motor cables. “ Maybe we'll keep the windows solid...” - probably will. Not a model I necessarily need, but curious how they will turn out. A few major lettering issues at first passing glance. I’ll be hanging on to my Atlas units. Nothing to get excited about here IMO. |
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Post by delta767332er on Dec 25, 2021 10:51:46 GMT -8
A few major lettering issues at first passing glance. I’ll be hanging on to my Atlas units. Nothing to get excited about here IMO. While I certainly agree the announced CSX art needs some work, I can’t fathom where one’s standards can be aware of those issues as “major” at a “passing” glance (kudos), but then follow that up with a comment that supports this model not Thanos-snapping the Atlas model into never-even-existed oblivion. Your artwork standards appears to be WAY higher than your “model actually looks like the real thing” standards. Not that there’s anything wrong with that….. Want some undecs? Brian Bennett |
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Post by lvrr325 on Dec 25, 2021 10:52:00 GMT -8
If I ran Chicago Line I'd get these for TVLA. I believe Santa Fe power showed up very often on that train. From what I recall my train watching days (mid-90s) Santa Fe power was pretty rare under any circumstance, at least east of Cleveland. I think I only have a handful of shots of Santa Fe units showing up around here, and some of them are in goofy places - a coal train off NS for down on the River Line had some, for instance. SP units would be more likely, TV-556 almost always had all SP power and could be almost anything, including once an MK leaser ex-Santa Fe F45 mixed in. |
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Post by csx3305 on Dec 25, 2021 10:56:03 GMT -8
A few major lettering issues at first passing glance. I’ll be hanging on to my Atlas units. Nothing to get excited about here IMO. While I certainly agree the announced CSX art needs some work, I can’t fathom where one’s standards can be aware of those issues as “major” at a “passing” glance (kudos), but then follow that up with a comment that supports this model not Thanos-snapping the Atlas model into never-even-existed oblivion. Your artwork standards appears to be WAY higher than your “model actually looks like the real thing” standards. Not that there’s anything wrong with that….. Want some undecs? Brian Bennett Wait until the thing comes out and we see how many dimensional errors or detail shortcuts are present before you go exalting it over the Atlas. See: Sw1200. They burned me on the Toteboats…..I’m not playing this game again. |
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Post by ambluco on Dec 25, 2021 12:40:30 GMT -8
Agreed. with some UP units too. If I ran Chicago Line I'd get these for TVLA. I believe Santa Fe power showed up very often on that train. From what I recall my train watching days (mid-90s) Santa Fe power was pretty rare under any circumstance, at least east of Cleveland. I think I only have a handful of shots of Santa Fe units showing up around here, and some of them are in goofy places - a coal train off NS for down on the River Line had some, for instance. SP units would be more likely, TV-556 almost always had all SP power and could be almost anything, including once an MK leaser ex-Santa Fe F45 mixed in. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Dec 25, 2021 15:21:45 GMT -8
the choice to do the GP38 is, shall I say.... interesting. It doesn't seem to go with the usual Rapido style of 'unusual thing/Canadian Thing/(insert Rapido employee here) needs it for their layout'. IMO seeing as how Rapido is a Canadian company they missed the boat by not doing the CP GP38ACs this round. I need a couple to go with my GP38-2s. I must say that even though we've all known it's been coming for a long time, CP ' The Empress' 2816 is going to be calling my name. Now we just need Rapido to make some heavyweight CP business cars to go with her  |
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 25, 2021 15:43:37 GMT -8
This is certainly going to be a wait and see. The bar is set pretty high when it comes to standard cab EMD's, and with Rapido's track record... Maybe they are listening to their customers now? Watch, ScaleTrains will announce the GP38-40 platform as their 4 axle.. Wouldn't be the worst thing to happen. I'm good with ScaleTrains locomotives and Rapido freight cars. |
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Post by GP40P-2 on Dec 25, 2021 17:56:41 GMT -8
The M420B is cool. May have to do some BC Rail stuff to justify it!
Now go for the gold, do the M420TR, either version, I like the French -Canadian one, but an FCP will do.
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Post by mdvle on Dec 25, 2021 19:30:26 GMT -8
Now go for the gold, do the M420TR, either version, I like the French -Canadian one, but an FCP will do.
At a guess, won't happen. If they are unsure about the BC Rail versions (and BC Rail apparently sells reasonably well) I can't see 2 locos for an obscure Canadian railroad or the units for a Mexcan railroad selling enough units to justify the entirely new tooling that would be required (per Wikipedia, a shorter frame and entire different hood/cab/ends).
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