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Post by stevef45 on Aug 27, 2015 18:37:15 GMT -8
tri color class lights, hmmmmmmm. Maybe Jersey Central GP40P-2'S or NJ Transit's GP40PH-2'S with HEP lolol
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Aug 27, 2015 18:53:41 GMT -8
Did any steam locomotives have tri-color class lights, or does that qualification rule out steam?
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Post by jbilbrey on Aug 27, 2015 19:46:41 GMT -8
Did any steam locomotives have tri-color class lights, or does that qualification rule out steam? I'm not sure about the tri-color class lights ruling out steam, but a steam locomotive is probably ruled out by the "illuminated instrument panel" and "rotating bearing caps when appropriate". At this point, my original three guesses (a C39-8, "missing" Dash-7's, and U-Boats) are also probably ruled out as well. James Bilbrey LaVergne, TN
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Post by GP40P-2 on Aug 27, 2015 20:46:38 GMT -8
"Tri-color marker lights" in the context that they used it could mean a single light that can be set to white, red or green i.e. any EMD or GE, not necessarily three different lights, one of each color like a Canadian unit or ALCo.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 27, 2015 20:52:03 GMT -8
I think I recently saw a manufacturer releasing a model with white/green class lights. I think I suggested instead using white/red, as second (scheduled) section following is not used anymore. If it is, I'd sure like to hear about it.
Nothin' wrong with white/green/red.
Ed
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Post by curtmc on Aug 27, 2015 20:57:51 GMT -8
Some steamers had class lights that could be different colors, and the Southern PS-4 locos (the class that includes both the #1401 that's now in Smithsonian Museum of American History in DC, and the legendary Tennessean #1380 streamlined green/silver beauty - which has only ever been done in brass)... Southern 2-8-2 #4501 is another unit that had colored lass lights and is a museum locomotive. It has now been in excursion service for about 50 years and is currently running excursions for NS.
Guys, it's a new model manufacturer located in Tennessee... What could be more appropriate than the Southern PS4 steamers that were used on the Southern train called the Tennessean (which by the way connected to the N&W who used class J's - including #611 - on the train on their portion of the route) OR the Southern #4501 that's the Southern excursion queen locomotive (of the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum that's only a short drive away from the ScaleTrains business location)
UPDATE: There's another clue in the newsletter pointing directly at Southern #4501... "rotating bearing caps when appropriate; and numerous road number specific details"
Southern #4501 latest rebuild includes roller bearings, and many other details specific to that unit...
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Post by ssw on Aug 27, 2015 20:59:03 GMT -8
Gp40p2 beat me, I also guess KM ML4000
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Post by curtmc on Aug 27, 2015 21:11:59 GMT -8
For those who do not know, the Southern Tennessean ran from Memphis, TN to Washington DC (Southern - N&W - Southern) and connected to New York (via PRR) in northeast and Dallas (via SSW Morning Star) to west...
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Post by fr8kar on Aug 27, 2015 21:12:23 GMT -8
The latest clue includes detail like Tri Color marker lights??? Legendary ScaleTrains™ On Saturday, November 14th, we invite you to see the difference. You won’t believe your eyes when we unveil our first Museum Quality™ locomotive at Trainfest® in Milwaukee, WI. Museum Quality models are historically accurate replicas of some of the most famous locomotives in American railroading history. We combine exhaustive research and a commitment to perfection to create the ultimate HO scale model. We have also added enhanced sound effects, LED lighting, and animation to bring each locomotive to life. Sounds a little Lionel/MTHish to me. Animation? What are we talking here? Working brake shoes? Operating cooling fans? Or along the lines of a waving engineer or snoring conductor? Also, Museum Quality™ sounds like Museum Prices™. My guess is these will have limited appeal since they are models of famous locomotives and will be priced accordingly. I don't expect to be building up a roster of these based on the description. Rotating bearing caps might be cool, but an illuminated instrument panel? Seriously? Why? The gauge lights on locomotives have a dimmer for a reason, so they are only as bright as necessary to see in the darkened cab without interfering with vision out of the cab. They are so dim as to barely be visible from the ground. I can think of a dozen other ancillary lights on a locomotive I'd rather have than gauge lights.
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Post by jaygee on Aug 28, 2015 5:16:50 GMT -8
Eureka ! The Rahway Valley 70 tonner finally makes it....after the RB conversion ! But I'm holding out for programmable cab chatter.
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Post by calzephyr on Aug 28, 2015 7:03:33 GMT -8
If anyone is going to the Portland show this weekend, they will be at the show.
They don't have a booth, but will be at the show and if you talk to them, some more clues might be revealed.
Larry
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Post by curtmc on Aug 29, 2015 6:42:56 GMT -8
Except for Southern #4501 which now has those... The "when appropriate" on the bearing caps also points to that loco as the current day version would have them and older versions appropriately not have them.
Yeah, I know it bursts some bubbles that its probably "just" a Southern steamer and not some western railroad prototype (or SD40-2, or SD39, or KM...) But the Southern #4501 is currently in excursion service (all over NS) and likely will be for many more years. And what is the status of the western mainline excursion steamers?
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Post by curtmc on Aug 29, 2015 6:51:18 GMT -8
Perhaps the new company and new location allows for them to break away from the southwestern biased production... A new model company concentrating on the southeast - and not UP, SP, Santa Fe or DRGW - would be quite nice to have.
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Post by kcjones on Aug 29, 2015 7:04:45 GMT -8
Perhaps the new company and new location allows for them to break away from the southwestern biased production... A new model company concentrating on the southeast - and not UP, SP, Santa Fe or DRGW - would be quite nice to have. Ah Geez, Here we go again with the Ingal's!!! JL
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Post by TBird1958 on Aug 29, 2015 7:14:03 GMT -8
If anyone is going to the Portland show this weekend, they will be at the show. They don't have a booth, but will be at the show and if you talk to them, some more clues might be revealed. Larry I had this in mind during my visit -Looked all over for them and never managed to meet up. There were many folks at the show so I wasn't surprised or disappointed. Hopefully someone will get the chance to chat them up today.
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Post by peoriaman on Aug 29, 2015 7:35:32 GMT -8
Perhaps the new company and new location allows for them to break away from the southwestern biased production... A new model company concentrating on the southeast - and not UP, SP, Santa Fe or DRGW - would be quite nice to have. Ah Geez, Here we go again with the Ingal's!!! JL Well..... You know, we've never had a definitive HO model of it in plastic.
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Aug 29, 2015 8:42:09 GMT -8
Well...since their web page shows pictures of modern locomotives and states they are licensed for CSX, GATX and Union Pacific and are based in Tennessee...I'm seeing an AC 4400 CW in CSX and Union Pacific road names or an ES 44 AH with a 3 bay 100 ton coal/iron hopper in 75 road numbers for their first offerings. They could also slip in an AC 6000 CW since both railroads use or used those locomotives.
I have already set up my account.
At least...that's what I'd like to see!
High Ball!
Lee
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 8:44:39 GMT -8
Perhaps a TRUE NW H-11?
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Post by conrailkid on Aug 29, 2015 19:49:54 GMT -8
My gut tells me C39-8 due to the fact that someone came out and measured them on the PNE. as for cars I'm going with Trinity Crude 30k tank
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Post by icrr3067 on Aug 29, 2015 21:07:22 GMT -8
GP28
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Post by jbilbrey on Aug 29, 2015 22:12:55 GMT -8
Except for Southern #4501 which now has those... The "when appropriate" on the bearing caps also points to that loco as the current day version would have them and older versions appropriately not have them. Yeah, I know it bursts some bubbles that its probably "just" a Southern steamer and not some western railroad prototype (or SD40-2, or SD39, or KM...) But the Southern #4501 is currently in excursion service (all over NS) and likely will be for many more years. And what is the status of the western mainline excursion steamers? You've got me there since I have secretly wanted a pre-USRA Mikado for years. It is also what kept me from buying the BLI [and will keep me from buying the Bachmann] models of Southern/TVRM 4501. A Southern Ms Mikado is different from a Ms-1 (USRA) Mikado in several areas. Also, I would rather get a model of a Ms Mikado in the "in-service" or as K&T 12 than the excursion train version despite visiting the TVRM on many occasions and riding behind 4501 following it's last rebuilding. But, that is a matter of personal preference. Other model railroaders will no doubt spring for the excursion train version. Ignoring a possible incorrect naming convention (usually, it is gauges on a boiler backhead instead of an "instrument panel"), it would be nice to see Southeastern steam get its due instead of of having to "settle" with just generic USRA models. And while being "just" a freight locomotive, 4501 has pulled its fair share of passengers following its purchase from the K&T. EDIT: A steam locomotive would allow for more animation than diesel as well. James Bilbrey LaVergne, TN P.S. Bachmann has just posted photos of its 4501 on its FB page. While as a USRA Mikado it looks okay; it is no more correct than the BLI version. At least, Bachmann released it in he the black scheme. Detail-wise, it is probably more correct for the period up to its most recent rebuilding.
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Post by drolsen on Aug 30, 2015 0:51:18 GMT -8
Perhaps the new company and new location allows for them to break away from the southwestern biased production... A new model company concentrating on the southeast - and not UP, SP, Santa Fe or DRGW - would be quite nice to have. Definitely. As you mentioned in the Tangent PS-3 discussion, I continue to hope for a quality Raceland 100-ton triple hopper. I would probably buy 100 of them over time in CSX and Chessie paint schemes, along with undecorated kits to model a few unique paint scheme variations. The only reason I wouldn't buy more is that I'm still holding out for a quality Eastern Bethgon to model CSX's black gon fleet from the '90s, or at least the gray Confederates. I'm really glad to see Eastern modelers get a top-quality PS-3, especially my friends who model L&N and CRR, but I hope us post-'70s modelers will get our hoppers eventually too. Dave
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Post by sd80mac on Sept 2, 2015 11:23:17 GMT -8
I'd bet money on a definitive, modular GE AC4400CW. It seems that's the one mass-produced model that hasn't been done well (Kato's is ok, but they only offer 1 phase which limits them greatly). If you model anything from about 1994 to today, it's a model that's sorely missed!
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Post by hovehicle on Sept 2, 2015 12:00:47 GMT -8
I would like a AC4400CW too, with all of the vents already painted black because it's a royal pain to paint them in between the handrail stanchions!
Vito L.
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Post by jaygee on Sept 2, 2015 13:45:41 GMT -8
The new locomotive will be a ......freight car !
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Post by carrman on Sept 2, 2015 19:34:22 GMT -8
Met up with Shane, and no the first release will be a locomotive. They hope to have a deco sample at Trainfest.
Dave
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Post by drolsen on Sept 2, 2015 19:57:56 GMT -8
I'd also like to see a correct H-12 to replace the short Bachman model, since Chessie has them also, but I know they were a lot fewer in number. Heck, any correct, high-quality Eastern 100-ton hopper would be welcome! Dave
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 2, 2015 20:45:10 GMT -8
Met up with Shane, and no the first release will be a locomotive. I believe the older stuff is pretty well covered (NW5, U33C). That leaves GE modern stuff. WOW. I was just up on the River. I would say that 3/4 of what I saw isn't available to us "guys". My checkbook is out. Oops, I dropped it. Where'd that darn thing go??? ............. Ed
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Post by bdhicks on Sept 2, 2015 21:47:50 GMT -8
I'm sure they'll hit all of the big ones: NC, SF30B, M640, HH20B, 4-S, GMDH-3
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Post by curtmc on Sept 3, 2015 4:08:34 GMT -8
I believe the older stuff is pretty well covered (NW5, U33C). LOL... 80%+ of the "older stuff" has never been done in plastic. Steam locomotives... I get the feeling that what we'll see from them is older steam locos and vehicles (too many licensing and production issues on newer vehicles - especially any GM/Chevy) and both older (1950s) and modern freight cars... Most of the common post-1980 diesels have already been done and some several times.
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