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Post by grabirons on Jan 6, 2022 23:44:24 GMT -8
It says the one we've been waiting for so let's hope they're implying it's the one we've been asking for as many have mentioned. Or, it's a state of the art switcher of some sort like an sw-1 with rivet counter and operator road names.
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Jan 7, 2022 5:08:27 GMT -8
The Scale Trains link is now updated with the same image as in the magazine ad. Fingers crossed GP35 (GP28, GP35m).
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 7, 2022 5:24:47 GMT -8
It says the one we've been waiting for so let's hope they're implying it's the one we've been asking for as many have mentioned. Which one, though? I've seen requests for switchers of various kinds, GP35s, GP30s, GP28s, Alcos, GEs and probably a few others if I scroll back through the thread.
I think they're going to surprise us all and do the definitive model of D&H 1205 and 1216 (especially considering they've been in the news recently).
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Post by stevef45 on Jan 7, 2022 5:58:49 GMT -8
GP38/40 so they can offer it in every roadname possible.
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 7, 2022 6:33:20 GMT -8
GP38/40 so they can offer it in every roadname possible. Like they're doing could be doing with the SD40-2? |
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Post by markfj on Jan 7, 2022 7:29:27 GMT -8
What, no one is thinking it’s an F7?  Mark J. Reading, PA |
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Post by riogrande on Jan 7, 2022 8:57:11 GMT -8
What, no one is thinking it’s an F7? Mark J. Reading, PA Not to my knowledge.  |
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Post by rockfan on Jan 7, 2022 9:03:14 GMT -8
I said FT because everyone has an F unit now, even the FP7/9.
Let the guessing continue.
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Post by packer on Jan 7, 2022 9:12:03 GMT -8
Wasn’t there a leaked photo or something of it being an H12-44?
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 7, 2022 9:40:49 GMT -8
What, no one is thinking it’s an F7? Mark J. Reading, PA Beat you to it….page 1 |
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Post by fishbelly on Jan 7, 2022 10:43:35 GMT -8
GP38/40 so they can offer it in every roadname possible. Like they're doing could be doing with the SD40-2? From what I understand so far. ST has yet to tool a non-DB hatch for their SD40-2. Hence no Mopac units yet. Or any road that did not have DB equipped SD40-2's. BTW, how many roads did have non DB equipped SD40-2's? I can only think of two. Mopac and IC. |
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Post by rockfan on Jan 7, 2022 10:47:24 GMT -8
Rock Island, no D/B. 10 SD40-2's
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 7, 2022 10:54:56 GMT -8
Rock Island, no D/B. 10 SD40-2's I just logged on to say the same. Then those went to ICG.
Some years later, the "new" IC picked up a big group of ex-BNs which they removed the DBs from. By this time the ex-RIs had gone elsewhere.
UP of course inherited the ex-Mopacs.
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Post by PennCentral on Jan 7, 2022 11:02:26 GMT -8
[/quote]From what I understand so far. ST has yet to tool a non-DB hatch for their SD40-2. Hence no Mopac units yet. Or any road that did not have DB equipped SD40-2's. BTW, how many roads did have non DB equipped SD40-2's? I can only think of two. Mopac and IC. [/quote] Second hand Mopac non-dynamic SD40-2's went to GTW and 10 went to GATX leasing. Those 10 retained their UP paint and had large red GATX leasing lettering on the sides. They were leased to CP Rail for use on the Delaware & Hudson in the 1990-93+ years. While they were on the D&H, they were cycled through a shop somewhere and received dynamic brakes. Here's #2008 without dynamics: GATX 2008 no dynamicsAnd 2008 with dynamics: GATX 2008 with dynamicsI would really like to see a run of non-dynamic ex-Mopac's in yellow. Preferably lettered for GATX to save me the effort of removing the UP lettering and adding the GATX decals. Jason C |
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Post by rockfan on Jan 7, 2022 11:15:18 GMT -8
I'll have to check but I thought RI's SD40-2's went to UP.
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 7, 2022 11:23:21 GMT -8
EDIT: For some reason it doesn't like my link, but anyway it was a link to the SD40-2s and their new ICG and EMD leasing numbers over the years.
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Post by 690 on Jan 7, 2022 12:45:05 GMT -8
Soo Line is another big one without dynamics. They had both early, and late SD40-2s (in fact some of the very last built iirc) without dynamics.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 7, 2022 12:49:28 GMT -8
I was just checking out an engine the other night, one of those NS units I mentioned with the spray painted numbers, and was surprised to find that it started out as a Mopac unit with no D/B. It stayed a UP unit until around 2000, getting renumbered to a 9000 series. It seems to have had them installed in Georgia before going to HATX and ran in UP colors, then got the blue dip paint. NS managed to beat about eight more years out of it and now it's sold on to still someone else. Got to wonder how many miles some of these things have run at this point.
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Post by JohnJ on Jan 7, 2022 14:46:40 GMT -8
Like they're doing could be doing with the SD40-2? From what I understand so far. ST has yet to tool a non-DB hatch for their SD40-2. Hence no Mopac units yet. Or any road that did not have DB equipped SD40-2's. BTW, how many roads did have non DB equipped SD40-2's? I can only think of two. Mopac and IC. Of course, as you know, MoPac did have dynamic brake equipped SD40-2s, so that’s not what’s holding them back from doing their model up in MP blue. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 7, 2022 15:01:05 GMT -8
Second hand Mopac non-dynamic SD40-2's went to GTW and 10 went to GATX leasing. Those 10 retained their UP paint and had large red GATX leasing lettering on the sides. They were leased to CP Rail for use on the Delaware & Hudson in the 1990-93+ years. While they were on the D&H, they were cycled through a shop somewhere and received dynamic brakes. Here's #2008 without dynamics: GATX 2008 no dynamicsAnd 2008 with dynamics: GATX 2008 with dynamicsI would really like to see a run of non-dynamic ex-Mopac's in yellow. Preferably lettered for GATX to save me the effort of removing the UP lettering and adding the GATX decals. Jason C IIRC CP eventually bought these engines, so they got the GATX lettering replaced with a red CP Rail plus new 5400 series numbers. If you do one you may as well do the other. |
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Post by fishbelly on Jan 7, 2022 19:48:25 GMT -8
From what I understand so far. ST has yet to tool a non-DB hatch for their SD40-2. Hence no Mopac units yet. Or any road that did not have DB equipped SD40-2's. BTW, how many roads did have non DB equipped SD40-2's? I can only think of two. Mopac and IC. Of course, as you know, MoPac did have dynamic brake equipped SD40-2s, so that’s not what’s holding them back from doing their model up in MP blue. Those would be the SD40-2C's. The C stood for coal. Majority of Mopac SD40-2 fleet were non-DB. So your typical Mopac SD40-2 lash-up would be non-dynamic. The Dynamic units were used to run coal trains out of the Pueblo, CO pooled with D&RGW units. They were built to D&RGW and BN specs. |
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Jan 7, 2022 20:25:03 GMT -8
The Mopac SD40-2c would also require new tooling. I agree with Brian that the non-dynamic SD40-2 would be a natural choice. I recommended to Scale Trains the 3164-3215 series which has not been produced before. From what I understand so far. ST has yet to tool a non-DB hatch for their SD40-2. Hence no Mopac units yet. Or any road that did not have DB equipped SD40-2's. BTW, how many roads did have non DB equipped SD40-2's? I can only think of two. Mopac and IC. Of course, as you know, MoPac did have dynamic brake equipped SD40-2s, so that’s not what’s holding them back from doing their model up in MP blue. |
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Post by fr8kar on Jan 7, 2022 20:54:05 GMT -8
The Mopac SD40-2c would also require new tooling. I agree with Brian that the non-dynamic SD40-2 would be a natural choice. I recommended to Scale Trains the 3164-3215 series which has not been produced before. Of course, as you know, MoPac did have dynamic brake equipped SD40-2s, so that’s not what’s holding them back from doing their model up in MP blue. I'd be game for that series. I have a few Athearn RTR models (3253, 3294 and 3308) and one of the Q-fan versions I built from a blue box shell, so that earlier series would help me out. |
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Post by sd40x on Jan 7, 2022 22:15:42 GMT -8
It definitely would be funny if the 4 axle we’ve all been waiting for turned out to be an EMD RS1325 lol.
I’m personally crossing my fingers for a GP30. Of course ST’s first run including UP’s B units would be fantastic!
Even if it’s a GP35, a well done fish belly under frame would be incredibly hard to resist along with all of the unique phase changes and options of the 35’s. I can really get excited over Frisco and C&NW rooftop torpedo tank 35’s models being introduced.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Jan 8, 2022 1:58:06 GMT -8
Could be a definitive CF7. Lotsa roadnames to do. I'd replace my Athearn Santa Fe; Genesee & Wyoming; and Amtrak units. Maybe add a few other shortlines.
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 8, 2022 6:41:51 GMT -8
If I were going to wager, I’d be looking at whatever four-axles were common around LA and West Colton in the 80s and 90’s, since that seems to be a key factor in the SD38-2’s getting made. No idea if that includes the Cotton Belt Gp30’s, I recall reading they spent a lot of time in storage during those years.
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Post by ambluco on Jan 8, 2022 7:40:56 GMT -8
Springfield announcement - NYC territory - GP30/GP35
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Post by riogrande on Jan 8, 2022 12:37:56 GMT -8
If I were going to wager, I’d be looking at whatever four-axles were common around LA and West Colton in the 80s and 90’s, since that seems to be a key factor in the SD38-2’s getting made. No idea if that includes the Cotton Belt Gp30’s, I recall reading they spent a lot of time in storage during those years. Is that because one of the principle owners is an SP fan? (Paul). I'm not sure if the GP30 will fall into Paul Ellis time frame of interest, maybe. |
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Jan 8, 2022 12:59:05 GMT -8
GP30 was a scarce unit on either NYC (10 units) or SP (8 units).
I have always wished EL or LV had bought even that many. Still, Buffalo could be a good place for seeing GP30s in the 60s and 70s. C&O units regularly came in from Detroit via Canada, the occasional Pennsy unit came in on their Buffalo line, you might luck out and see one of the NYC units, CB&Q units would occasionally come through as pool power on the EL, and High Nose N&W units at times lead the Lehigh Valley Apollos as pool power.
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Post by riogrande on Jan 8, 2022 13:33:28 GMT -8
Rio Grande had 28 GP30's, and they were pretty visible on freight trains from purchase in the 60's into the 1980's (road numbers were 3001-3028). After the GP35's were introduced, Rio Grande bought only 22 of them, but engineers reportedly preferred GP30's to lead because the cab doors were designed and seal the cold weather out. There are photo's of GP30's leading tunnel motors as well.
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