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Post by sd80mac on Jan 14, 2022 14:27:34 GMT -8
I think either would make good sense for ST. There are more GP38/GP38-2s running around today than almost anything else. You could do a run every month for 10 years and no cover all of the myriad of paint schemes those engines have worn over the last 50+ years. It's a model far more deserving than Athearn's maybe 1 run per year. Scale Trains could be doing that already with their SD40-2, but they're not. Maybe they just want us to wait for years and years to get our favorite roadnames. I will cut them just a tiny bit of slack since they're probably still digesting all of the MTH tooling, but I don't disagree with you. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 14, 2022 15:46:52 GMT -8
straight GP38s might not be a bad idea, depending on how good (or not) the Rapido turns out. But announcing it so soon after kind of seems like a bad move to me... Isn't that what kind of happened with the PS 4785 hoppers? I think that it was unintentional, though. I don't remember. I think there was a pretty large time gap between IMRC's announcement and SXT's, I don't remember who's was actually out first though. I do remember them annnouncing the Multi-Max auto racks just a month or two after Atlas did. And them bringing out an Airslide car about 6 months after Tangent did... On the other side of the coin, when Scale Trains announced their Dash 9 three years ago, Athearn was very close to announcing theirs. Instead of simply announcing it whenever they would have anyways (this is what Scale Trains would have done), Athearn waited a full year and a half, then announced a handful of variations that SXT had not done, thus not actually duplicating anything, at least not initially. |
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Post by tom on Jan 14, 2022 17:38:56 GMT -8
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Post by SCL618 on Jan 14, 2022 21:07:21 GMT -8
A Scaletrains GE U18B and U18BL with a small tank would be the best news of the decade shy of a styrene 1958 cubic foot dry rock phosphate hopper. The Intermountain model gets the nod because it’s the only game in town for now, but man does it have some warts.
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Post by cera2254 on Jan 14, 2022 21:11:08 GMT -8
Who says it’s a locomotive? Could be a freight car. 😆
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 2:47:59 GMT -8
GP38/40…I’m game if so. GP30/35/28 is a good choice too…or an SW1001?
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 15, 2022 6:16:58 GMT -8
Think outside of the box for a moment: Scale Trains is doing the definitive B36-7. The B36-7 that Rapido announced but didn't quite do. With CSX style stepwells and pilots of course.
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Post by middledivision on Jan 15, 2022 7:21:43 GMT -8
GP38/40…I’m game if so. GP30/35/28 is a good choice too…or an SW1001? I have a bad feeling about the SW1001. A bad feeling that it is the engine, based on the SDL39 and SD38-2 offerings. True, a few people have been asking for one for a long time but how many switchers will people buy? One or two, tops? I know they can do other switchers with the frame but a switcher is still something you only buy a couple of. I have half a dozen ST Dash 9's with another half dozen preordered, will I buy that many switchers? Nope. |
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Post by mdvle on Jan 15, 2022 7:46:37 GMT -8
GP38/40…I’m game if so. GP30/35/28 is a good choice too…or an SW1001? I have a bad feeling about the SW1001. A bad feeling that it is the engine, based on the SDL39 and SD38-2 offerings. True, a few people have been asking for one for a long time but how many switchers will people buy? One or two, tops? I know they can do other switchers with the frame but a switcher is still something you only buy a couple of. I have half a dozen ST Dash 9's with another half dozen preordered, will I buy that many switchers? Nope.
But while buyers of a SW1001/T6/Boxcab/etc switcher may only buy 1 or 2, there will potentially be a lot more of them than for your example of Dash-9 and modern large power.
Most people simply don't have the large layouts that can handle 12+ large locos, and thus aren't going around buying 12 Dash-9 locos from ScaleTrains.
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Post by mdvle on Jan 15, 2022 7:49:38 GMT -8
I think either would make good sense for ST. There are more GP38/GP38-2s running around today than almost anything else. You could do a run every month for 10 years and no cover all of the myriad of paint schemes those engines have worn over the last 50+ years. It's a model far more deserving than Athearn's maybe 1 run per year. Scale Trains could be doing that already with their SD40-2, but they're not. Maybe they just want us to wait for years and years to get our favorite roadnames.
It's easy to forget ScaleTrains is still a young company in the ramping up stage of a business plan.
Without the vast inventory of tooling someone like Athearn has to generate reliable cash flow they need to be slower at creating new tooling to accurately offer all of those SD40-2 variations people want.
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 15, 2022 7:54:16 GMT -8
Scale Trains could be doing that already with their SD40-2, but they're not. Maybe they just want us to wait for years and years to get our favorite roadnames.
It's easy to forget ScaleTrains is still a young company in the ramping up stage of a business plan.
Without the vast inventory of tooling someone like Athearn has to generate reliable cash flow they need to be slower at creating new tooling to accurately offer all of those SD40-2 variations people want.
Paint schemes, not tooling differences. I find it hard to believe there aren't a dozen or so paint schemes they could release right now with the tooling they already have. |
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Post by snootie3257 on Jan 15, 2022 8:14:06 GMT -8
It's easy to forget ScaleTrains is still a young company in the ramping up stage of a business plan. Without the vast inventory of tooling someone like Athearn has to generate reliable cash flow they need to be slower at creating new tooling to accurately offer all of those SD40-2 variations people want. Paint schemes, not tooling differences. I find it hard to believe there aren't a dozen or so paint schemes they could release right now with the tooling they already have. I’m still waiting for ST to do an MKT SD40-2. Steve |
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Post by nebrzephyr on Jan 15, 2022 8:44:38 GMT -8
I’m still waiting for ST to do an MKT SD40-2. Steve ....plus the 81"/88" nose Santa Fe Rivet counter (they did it in Operator). Plus, the snoot nose Union Pacific.
They obviously have the tooling so why no releases?
Bob
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Post by mdvle on Jan 15, 2022 11:05:53 GMT -8
Just because something was done in Operator doesn't mean that tooling meets the standards for Rivet Counter - there may be additional details that would need to be added.
And at least some of those potential paint schemes won't (sadly) be as popular as people hope.
Or it may simply be that the hated GEVO models are currently selling much better, and thus are a better choice for production slots.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 15, 2022 11:37:06 GMT -8
I would presume the tool was made so they can change the nose. That's the only way I would cut an SD40 tool these days, multiple interchangeable pieces so you can assemble it to make different variations. Maybe you even make the pieces for one version and then when it's time to make the variant you only need to make one or two new pieces.
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Post by myoungwisc on Jan 15, 2022 11:44:21 GMT -8
Perhaps a Museum Quality BL20-2? There's only one that I know of in HO scale, scratchbuilt by Gordon Cannon.
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 15, 2022 12:03:29 GMT -8
I bet its a Santa Fe Beep.
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Post by five83 on Jan 15, 2022 13:20:38 GMT -8
I'd be happy with a GP30 or GP35.
Either way, it's probably a safe bet that what ever it might be, SP had them. Even though I don't model SP, it's a go to seller.
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Post by stevef45 on Jan 15, 2022 13:45:53 GMT -8
Gp40-2 and they can also do the csx and ns rebuilds with spongebob cabs and new spartan cabs.
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Post by Baikal on Jan 15, 2022 19:51:34 GMT -8
I'd be happy with a GP30 or GP35. Either way, it's probably a safe bet that what ever it might be, SP had them. Even though I don't model SP, it's a go to seller.
Possibilities. SP owned all:
S-6. SP had 70. S-5 is the same, T-6 similar.
C-415 GP30 GP35 GP38 / 40. Cotton Belt had 8 GP40s.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Jan 15, 2022 20:58:24 GMT -8
Ooohhh -- I forgot about the ALCo C415! I'd be in for multiples of those (RI and SP).
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Post by el3672 on Jan 15, 2022 21:35:18 GMT -8
So when's ST gonna pop the top on this four axle?
I'm really feeling an ALCO here. Count me in on a very
popular C-424-425....listen to the 251 Diesel Engines idling.
Soot, Soot, Soot!!!
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Post by cera2254 on Jan 15, 2022 22:41:15 GMT -8
Would love to see a ST C424/425 but I don’t think ST is too fond of ALCOs.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 16, 2022 0:11:10 GMT -8
Presumably they announce it at Springfield. So you have about two more weeks to wait and guess more possibilities.
Surely everyone has been waiting for the Alco "Black Maria" demos, in the Alco scheme plus Santa Fe, Union Pacific and even Conrail.
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Post by rockfan on Jan 16, 2022 11:59:13 GMT -8
Did someone say C415? Yes please!
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Post by oakway on Jan 25, 2022 13:25:05 GMT -8
Well, the weekend is getting close now. I can feel the tension in the room for a GP59/GP60 and or B32-8. NS models seem to be popular these days.
John
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Post by riogrande on Jan 25, 2022 13:42:39 GMT -8
The tension I feel is for a GP30.
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Post by unittrain on Jan 25, 2022 14:19:09 GMT -8
GP30 for sure 😎😎😎
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 25, 2022 14:51:35 GMT -8
Well, the weekend is getting close now. I can feel the tension in the room for a GP59/GP60 and or B32-8. NS models seem to be popular these days. John A GP59 would be a very welcome surprise! |
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Post by oakway on Jan 25, 2022 15:37:07 GMT -8
Well, the weekend is getting close now. I can feel the tension in the room for a GP59/GP60 and or B32-8. NS models seem to be popular these days. John A GP59 would be a very welcome surprise! Scale Trains is always about the surprise. Looking forward to the SDL39’s next month. Just another model that no company was ever going to produce in plastic. At this point it could be anything, including the RS1325🤣 |
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