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Post by lvrr325 on Dec 21, 2021 12:38:54 GMT -8
Sure, but it's been almost 50 years, and they never made any models or toys for this film that I am aware of. I would bet items from the film have more value because of the stars they're connected to than the film.
It would have been fairly easy to go to Tyco and offer a set with two F-units and three or four cars as an official movie train set but that didn't happen.
Maybe somebody can pitch it to the movie company for the film's 50th anniversary and get a legit train set done, with a deluxe blu-ray and maybe a book with photos or something.
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Post by mdvle on Dec 23, 2021 16:26:24 GMT -8
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Post by mdvle on Dec 24, 2021 12:36:08 GMT -8
Rapido have posted a 30 minute video where Jason answers questions submitted to Rapido while riding VIA's Canadian through Northern Ontario
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Post by el3625 on Dec 30, 2021 20:02:45 GMT -8
PLEASE Rapido, Please get the colors correct on your Erie Lackawanna U25B's and E-8's before you release them, especially the gray, it will be critical for your sales of this road name.
Bruce
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Post by mdvle on Jan 11, 2022 16:49:59 GMT -8
So, for all those having issues with Rapido stuff you get another opportunity to vent your frustration and attempt to get your voice heard.
The next Rapido Live event is currently (per the Rapido website) scheduled for Thursday January 20th from 7pm to 8pm.
They also will be at Springfield.
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Post by pboilermaker on Jan 12, 2022 5:27:02 GMT -8
So, for all those having issues with Rapido stuff you get another opportunity to vent your frustration and attempt to get your voice heard. The next Rapido Live event is currently (per the Rapido website) scheduled for Thursday January 20th from 7pm to 8pm. They also will be at Springfield. Issues? Surely you jest. There are no issues that any credible model railroader would take seriously. Besides, you'd have to be a domestic terrorist for even thinking of voicing displeasure or frustration in such a venue.
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Post by csxt8400 on Jan 12, 2022 9:25:25 GMT -8
Besides, you'd have to be a domestic terrorist for even thinking of voicing displeasure or frustration in such a venue. Might as well make it a day and hit up the school board meeting on the way home
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Post by unittrain on Jan 12, 2022 11:05:46 GMT -8
Any complaints will be addressed with the only action being a snarky video skit π
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Post by unittrain on Jan 12, 2022 11:06:58 GMT -8
They will do a skit with one of their guys looking at a boxcar or something under a microscope
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Post by el3625 on Jan 13, 2022 15:35:33 GMT -8
Now I am getting really concerned about the Erie Lackawanna U25B's and the E-8's. I was really looking forward to these two models, now I am having second thoughts. Now we have to worry about if these two models are going to be correct on top of making sure the colors are spot on. It seems like all of the models are taking serious hits lately. It is too much money to spend on subpar models which is why I do not preorder anymore. You buy and get it then if you are not happy with it you spend more to send it back to them. I tried to get another manufacturer to send me a return shipping label and they basically laughed and ignored me. Why should I pay for their screw up! Sounds like they are having a lot of issues recently. Bruce
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Post by mdvle on Jan 13, 2022 16:27:46 GMT -8
Now I am getting really concerned about the Erie Lackawanna U25B's and the E-8's. I was really looking forward to these two models, now I am having second thoughts. Now we have to worry about if these two models are going to be correct on top of making sure the colors are spot on. It seems like all of the models are taking serious hits lately. It is too much money to spend on subpar models which is why I do not preorder anymore. You buy and get it then if you are not happy with it you spend more to send it back to them. I tried to get another manufacturer to send me a return shipping label and they basically laughed and ignored me. Why should I pay for their screw up! Sounds like they are having a lot of issues recently. Bruce
All I can suggest (and this is a generic suggestion not restricted to Rapido) is providing feedback to any manufacturer whose product you don't purchase because you are unhappy with errors or quality control.
Not buying is the easy - and valid - option but as long as they sell out and meet the minimums they need manufacturers won't notice your refusal to buy.
If enough people combine the failure to purchase with a polite notification to the manufacturer as to why they lost the sale, they may potentially take notice - get enough notices that they can start to extrapolate to 25, 50, 100, etc lost sales and that is money they have left on the table so to speak that could help pay for more new projects.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 13, 2022 17:25:53 GMT -8
They already delayed the E8s because the factory made unapproved changes, not sure what more you want. Talk to them about the colors.
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Post by unittrain on Jan 19, 2022 5:26:27 GMT -8
There's pictures of Rapidos new E8 samples on FB man that nose looks a little too vertical π¬ I hope I'm wrong. I have 2 on pre order.
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Post by riogrande on Jan 19, 2022 6:00:13 GMT -8
I took a quick look at the photo's on the FB page. I'm no expert but it didn't stand out at me. The grabs etc. did look pretty thick, but that seems to be what Rapido does these days after the SW1200's came out.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 19, 2022 6:04:37 GMT -8
The grabs etc. did look pretty thick, but that seems to be what Rapido does these days after the SW1200's came out. They were doing that earlier. FA-2 comes to mind. Ed
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 19, 2022 6:44:06 GMT -8
There's pictures of Rapidos new E8 samples on FB man that nose looks a little too vertical π¬ I hope I'm wrong. I have 2 on pre order. Even if the nose turns out to be correct, I just can't get past that pilot. It looks like the pilots on the rebuilt BN commuter engines.... Perfectly vertical! Is it a function of the camera lens maybe?
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Post by jonklein611 on Jan 19, 2022 7:20:27 GMT -8
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Post by csxt8400 on Jan 19, 2022 7:58:57 GMT -8
I really, really hope they fix this. It does look like it's getting closer with the ride height.
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Post by mdvle on Jan 19, 2022 8:05:37 GMT -8
Just a comment for anyone the doesn't want to go to Facebook Rapido also posts the pictures to their Twitter feed.
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Post by el3625 on Jan 19, 2022 9:31:32 GMT -8
Pilots are totally wrong for Erie Lackawanna and probably for others also, I do not know for sure, and the grabs are way too fat. For now, I am passing on these. We have not even seen the paint on these yet. For the money I will stick with my Proto 2000's, they are at least paid for and pull great.
Bruce
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Post by cnwman on Jan 19, 2022 10:17:33 GMT -8
There's pictures of Rapidos new E8 samples on FB man that nose looks a little too vertical π¬ I hope I'm wrong. I have 2 on pre order. Even if the nose turns out to be correct, I just can't get past that pilot. It looks like the pilots on the rebuilt BN commuter engines.... Perfectly vertical! Is it a function of the camera lens maybe? I think (hope) that the nose may look more vertical due to the camera angle (slight fisheye distortion?). The actual locomotive that I believe they laser-scanned is Union Pacific 942 at the Southern California Railway Museum, which was C&NW/Chicago RTA 510 during the 1970s and 80s. Here's a Kevin Piper photo of sister unit 508 (ex-UP 934) prior to painting. This pilot appears pretty vertical to me (as it does in other photos of C&NW 507-511 which were all former UP units with passenger pilots. The more worrisome part of the Rapido E8A sample, in my opinion, is their rendition of the Farr intake grilles. On the sample model, they appear to "fold over" at an angle along the top and bottom, rather than being squared off structures as on the real thing. Here's a photo of a Farr grill on a Susguehanna (ex-BN?) E9A: Note the top and bottom of the grille fold back at 90 degrees to make a box-like structure. The prototype vertical cross-section looks like this: __ | | | | |__ The Rapido Grille (from their photos) looks to me like this: / | | | \ Edit: I did send a constructive input email to Rapido about the Farr grilles. Mark
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Post by santafe49 on Jan 19, 2022 12:29:42 GMT -8
I will pass on these. The grey is too light and the black on the handrails is the wrong shade.
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Post by unittrain on Jan 19, 2022 12:37:44 GMT -8
Rapido is simply trying to crank out way too much, heck with locomotive experts it would be hard to simultaneously develop all these locomotives. I'm concerned I have like 10 or so locomotives on pre-order through them.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 20, 2022 7:22:32 GMT -8
The NYS&W units were indeed ex-BN, from the commuter rebuild pool.
All you can do is point out things you see incorrect for your road, they have a fair track record of correcting things.
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Post by Baikal on Jan 20, 2022 7:50:32 GMT -8
The NYS&W units were indeed ex-BN, from the commuter rebuild pool. All you can do is point out things you see incorrect for your road, they have a fair track record of correcting things.
Those Farr grilles are wrong for every railroad and will be difficult to fix. Casting the grilles in plastic would have looked better. Grab irons are too fat for every road. Another thing you can do is not buy 2nd-rate products at 1st-rate prices.
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Post by lars on Jan 20, 2022 9:58:08 GMT -8
Nose comparison:
PS. This may be getting to the point where the mods might want to kick it to a new thread.
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Post by Baikal on Jan 20, 2022 10:06:33 GMT -8
Nose comparison: PS. This may be getting to the point where the mods might want to kick it to a new thread.
The Santa Fe unit has what is commonly known as a "freight pilot". This is the normal pilot found on 95 percent+- of EMD F-units. Some railroads used them on E-units.
The Rapido model and UP E8/9s have a non-indented "passenger pilot". Some of these passenger pilots may have a slight slant on some planes. That needs research.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 20, 2022 10:25:53 GMT -8
Personally I'd prefer slightly oversize grabs that have some durability over scale size ones that break if you look at them funny, but
Given the model is based on a UP unit a better comparison photo would be one of the UP's even if it's in C&NW paint.
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 20, 2022 10:46:53 GMT -8
The Santa Fe unit has what is commonly known as a "freight pilot". This is the normal pilot found on 95 percent+- of EMD F-units. Some railroads used them on E-units.
The Rapido model and UP E8/9s have a non-indented "passenger pilot". Some of these passenger pilots may have a slight slant on some planes. That needs research.
Yes, most people know the difference between freight and passenger pilots by now. I think the photos were posted to compare how much the nose itself is sloped. Which may still be a function of how much of a fisheye effect (and the relative height of the camera) there is.
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Post by markfj on Jan 20, 2022 11:04:41 GMT -8
The trucks look really good. Being optimistic, I think the sample photos have some kind of lens distortion going on. Although that canβt explain the way the grills tuck in at the top and bottom. Being an optimistic again, could that be an assembly error? It is a sample after all.
Thanks, Mark
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